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Oh, out of the blue, for no particular reason I've coined a term for the melodramatic fandom exit:

"Fandom Suicide."

You know the ones. The writer/fan/reader posts a long-winded explanation (a.k.a. "suicide note") why they're leaving... forever (back of hand to forehead)... woe is me -- "and here's how you all should feel really guilty about my departure."

Just to make sure the knife is keenly felt, "I shalt take down all my fics and delete my archive."

It's perfect. The motives are exactly the same!

The only difference is an actual suicide isn't likely to come back, months later, looking a little silly. Hanging around the gravestone, "Uh, hi guys."

I really ought to stop listening to Bach's Toccata in G D Minor. It puts me in a macabre mood.

ETA: Sheesh. I've been saying G Minor all week.

Date: 2006-01-01 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethbethbeth.livejournal.com
We've always called it the Fandom Flounce, but yeah...it is like a staged (faux) suicide, isn't it?


Date: 2006-01-01 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com

I knew someone in the Lord of the Rings fandom who "dearly departed" about once a year. I took it seriously the first time (I was new) then watched in awe as everyone turned out to be right. She trickled back, months later, ignoring the irony.

"Goodbye, cruel world!" Darn, I need to look up Juliet's quote here but I'm feeling far too lazy.


Date: 2006-01-01 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malnpudl.livejournal.com

And your music reminds me of my favorite filthy limerick... shall I quote it here for you?

Date: 2006-01-01 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malnpudl.livejournal.com
There was a young lady from China
Who strung fiddle strings 'crost her vagina
With the proper sized cocks
What was sex, became Bach's
Toccata and Fugue in D Minor

(It's by Isaac Asimov, by the way, to give credit where due.)

Date: 2006-01-01 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
D Minor? *checks* Oh, darn it, I've been saying G Minor all week.

Is that from the collection of limericks he wrote in competition with (who was it? used to be a regular on NPR, always closed with "good words to you"). They both agreed that the limerick was the lowest form of literature known to man, but then decided that that could be because they weren't able to write them, then decided they'd write limericks and then decide. They ended up competing and writing increasingly dirty ones.

The results, I understand, were hilarious.

Darn, who was the other guy?


Date: 2006-01-01 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malnpudl.livejournal.com
John Ciardi, right? I heard about that -- and the book's still listed on amazon.com -- but I've never seen it.

No, this one was from an old paperback of Asimov's called Filthy Little Limericks or Lecherous Limericks or something like that. I may still have it somewhere (?), but all my books are in boxes at the moment.

Some very clever and very funny stuff.

Date: 2006-01-01 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
John Ciardi! Yes!

I heard about it, never read it, but a classmate of mine back in the day said Ciardi was particularly clever and funny.


Date: 2006-01-02 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiatincantatum.livejournal.com
Lecherous Limericks! I have a copy floating around somewhere, too!

My favorite went something like:

Once Titian while mixing rose madder
Spied his model on top of a ladder
Her position, to Titian
Suggested coition
So he climbed up the ladder and had'er.

Date: 2006-01-01 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nufaciel.livejournal.com
*smirks* *giggles* *snorts*

That's *exactly* what it is. I don't think there's a better name for it.

Date: 2006-01-01 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
*g* It's best if they can manage to flop around on the stage a bit, make it "realistic."


Date: 2006-01-01 10:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ninasis.livejournal.com
The only difference is an actual suicide isn't likely to come back, months later, looking a little silly.

Or come back as a new author, only to be "found out" a few months later after causing ruckus again.

Date: 2006-01-01 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
All right, that is the most adorable David Hewlett pic. Which ep is it from? /distraction

I've come to see the priest's ordination ceremony in a very different way than I did before.

Whoopsy-daisy! Forgot the personality transplant I see. ;) *chuckles*


Date: 2006-01-02 04:37 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ninasis.livejournal.com
Eee, I have no clue which ep it's from. I saved it ages ago, but I never label my pics with enough info. I have this as "David Awesome Smile."

I have the original picture, I believe, if you'd like it? ;-)

Date: 2006-01-02 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tikiberry.livejournal.com
It's from Trinity. You know that bit where McKay, Sheppard and Zelenka sitting in the Jumper...

*points to icon*

Date: 2006-01-03 01:50 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] aizjanika.livejournal.com
**snuggles your icon**

Date: 2006-01-03 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Sure, if it's convenient for you. Otherwise you don't need to go to any trouble.

A little drabblet (not from Trinity):

Sheppard glanced up from the controls in that moment of relief you had between one danger and the next, knowing that you still had to make it back through the gate, but for now, you were okay. Everyone was okay.

Sheppard stretched his hands behind his head and grinned at Rodney, kicking back. "Not bad, McKay. Maybe we'll have you fly more often."

Rodney, with his usual billboard face, blushed.

Of course the jumper wobbled for a sec before he got it back under control, bug-eyed, then obviously annoyed. "I'd do a lot better if you didn't distract me."

Several control panels had flashed on and John read them lazily. Critical systems read-outs, great if your jumper's having a melt-down, irrelevant now. Rodney panicked too easily, the state of his mind displayed in living color by the Ancient technology, every time.

"Sorry," John said, amused and unapologetic. If they weren't in danger it was fun to rattle Rodney.

The panels blinked off. "It was good flying," Rodney said, "probably the best I've ever done." The ambient light in the jumper raised slightly and John could almost hear the engines purr.

John laughed, grinning at him. Rodney was glowing almost as much as the ship, his smile relaxed and happy. Actually, Rodney was a pretty good-looking guy, when you saw him like this. John blinked at the thought and let it pass. The jumper hummed softly towards the gate.


Date: 2006-01-03 06:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ninasis.livejournal.com
Rodney was glowing almost as much as the ship, his smile relaxed and happy.

That matches this picture perfectly!


Date: 2006-01-01 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amethyst-lupin.livejournal.com
That sounds like fun, I should try that sometime!

*practices her dramatic face*

Date: 2006-01-01 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Some people build a career in death scenes. Hmm. I think you need to gaze ever-skyward a bit more. Think "Joan of Arc."


Date: 2006-01-01 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lillian78.livejournal.com
Oh God. You've hit my biggest fandom pet peeve. The "goodbye cruel fandom" exit. Just once if someone is taking some time off (be it a month or years) or finishing with any/all fandoms in general I will just plead "please, please don't make us sit through another round of "I'm leaving---mourn my loss to the fandom of fill-in-the-blank. Of course you know they want to create a stir and get all those "please don't leave us," posts. Yuck. Sorry, but I hate those kind of self-serving posts.

Date: 2006-01-01 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com

I find it obscurely entertaining, once I clued in. I keep shaking my head waiting for their inevitable return with a grin on my face.

It's humiliating for them, I'm sure, but at times I can be sadistic.


Date: 2006-01-01 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] destina.livejournal.com
i've always seen that referred to as the fandom flounce. The more melodramatic the exit, the funnier it usually is, because these people never actually leave. There are some who've come and gone so many times, they've worn a trail through fandom. *g*

Date: 2006-01-01 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Darn, you mean I can't actually name that object that's already called "M82" in our universe? *snort* I had a friend who did that so many times it was an annual event. There would be a scuffle annnnd.... there she goes. Again.

The countdown began.

Her average return time was about six weeks, but I think she never really left, just hung around to read the "please don't go, we'll change -- honest!" posts. I was totally taken in the first time. Even talked to the moderator about the situation that provoked her departure because, after all, she was a long-term member, gosh. They patted me on the head, "It's fine, really."


Date: 2006-01-01 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiatincantatum.livejournal.com
It's not just fandom... people do it on LJ too "Oh, I have NO TIME, so I'm going to DELETE MY LIVEJOURNAL, good BYE cruel world..."

And then everyone says how much they will miss whoever-it-is and either the journal never quite gets deleted or it gets deleted and they start up another one just for "real friends" and the cycle repeats itself.

Feh. Drama whores.

Date: 2006-01-02 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
We need to create a list of more dramatic exits, because this one is wearing itself out. We can get this started:

I'm leaving because...

1 - They have found out how to fool the tin foil hats and control my mind. I've retreated to an underground bunker.

2 - I'm actually a lecherous 70-year-old man getting off on all your sexual secrets -- tell me more!

3 - "This is the NSA. We have discovered your Harry Potter fandom exists for the sole purpose of supporting terrorist cells and coded messages are embedded in Draco Veritas and Civil War. We are offended at the coded messages in Harry Potter And The Mai Tai Of Doom...."

Go on. There has to be a better way to leave fandom.


Date: 2006-01-02 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiatincantatum.livejournal.com
"There must be
Fifty Ways To Leave Your Fandom..."

*has song stuck in brain now*

oh dear

Date: 2006-01-02 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Aha! I get that song stuck in my head every single time someone leaves. It's about time someone else suffers. ;)


Date: 2006-01-01 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonprincessnat.livejournal.com
Ack, I hate when that happens. I mean, really, what's the point in deleting all the stuff they've already done? Just so no one else can enjoy them? I just don't understand that...

Date: 2006-01-02 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Ah yes, that's called "anger" (perceived as righteous indignation by the fandom suicide). "You'll regret hurting me fandom, all of you!" *shoots self in the head.*


Date: 2006-01-02 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caseylane.livejournal.com
Oh man, have I seen that a time or two (dozen). Usually it's a mediocher writer that is having a hissy fit because someone dared tell them to get a real beta instead of a cheerleader for their stories. Or if someone doesn't see a character in the same light they do, they take it as a personal attack instead of an opinion.

I always want to call them out with a snarky comment or two when they come crawling back. Instead I just roll my eyes and ignore them completely until their next flounce.

Date: 2006-01-02 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Darn. And I was hoping fandom suicide would catch on, but there's already a term.


Yeah. Take that!


Date: 2006-01-02 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caseylane.livejournal.com
LOL. I'll follow with:

Oh nozzzz, don't leave!!!! What ever will we do without you??!! Don't give in to the meaniez!!!


Date: 2006-01-02 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-marion.livejournal.com

Even funnier is if you've done it before, and having done so, can giggle and pat newbies-to-a-fandom on the back when they get all wide-eyed over such departures!

Been there! Done that! Except the deleting- whoops, actually I deleted an LJ that way. Then moved my stuff over to the one I'm using now. Then wiped my sweet precious brow, and thought to mahself...

'Boy was that ever pointless!' And then I added back alllll the friends I'd 'left' from the other journal-- except one who thought the brouhaha was worth the effort-- for a journal/DevArt/FF.n account a month! *headdesk*

Re: *snirk!!!*

Date: 2006-01-02 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com

I recently did a "darn it, I'm not writing until I'm good and ready!" and then, like, posted something a day later.

It was remarkably silent when I asked for a beta.

*crickets chirp*

*head in hands*

Okay, I deserved that. Hahahahahahhahahahah!


Date: 2006-01-02 03:42 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cofax7
Oh, that. *grins* I've seen it referred to as YAGE: Yet Another Grand Exit. And yes, they always come slinking back. So amusing.

Date: 2006-01-02 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Ha! That's pretty good. And cue the orchestra.

(We need a whimpering sound like a deflating bagpipe for the return.)


Date: 2006-01-02 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miladyhawke.livejournal.com
Ah :) While your interpretation is pretty cool in and of itself, I believe the word you are looking to coin is "pseudocide", as per Fandom Wank and the other mocking communities ;)

Which reminds me that I'm overdue for a suitably dramatic declaration! I must go now and make a post about running off to drown my head in a toilet, so that then I may receive all the lovely comments screaming "Oh, no...!!11! What a loss that would be to fandom! Heh. Just kidding. But that would be fun.

Date: 2006-01-02 10:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tikiberry.livejournal.com
And I say, yeah, yeah, yeah. Please go away and never come back! Please.

Unfortunately, they never listen...

Date: 2006-01-03 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magic-8ball.livejournal.com
I was laughing about that post until I realized that several years back, after a particular fandom was snuffed out by the intellectually challenged execs at Fox, I wrote an author's note at the end of a story saying that I didn't plan to write any more in that fandom. Had no intent to be melodramatic, I'd just said all I felt I had to say about the characters. Pretty simple.

But then maybe two years (not months, years) I revisited some of the characters and did one of those "ten years after the series ends" types of fics. Of course, by then the fandom was pretty much dead an I don't think anyone even noticed I was writing again, but now I fear that someone somewhere might have thought I was faking fandom suicide.

I'm so embarassed.


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