ext_7564 ([identity profile] tinderblast.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] icarus 2004-07-04 10:05 am (UTC)

But the rare and wonderful thing about S. is that she can actually debate without resorting to personal attack or silly straw-person arguments, and that she follows a line of thinking. Too many debates in fandom end with yeah, well, y tu mama tambien! and so I adore anyone who can argue well (but not those pedants who take debating too seriously, lord no - being in a conversation with them is like being stuck in an elevator).

*sighs*

I just wish she hadn't disappared.

But - Ron - and coincidentally, S. wrote a lovely paen to him not that long ago, and I read and thought, yeah, I can see all his good points and still not love him. I don't know what it is. I completely take on board your point about this being a Ron who's changed as a result of his experiences and I think that this is in many respects a good thing in the story. But I just feel that there's no glimmer of schoolboy!Ron through it.

I really struggled to come up with oblivious, cheerful, underdog, unthinking, joking etc. description of Ron, as I really don't know what it is that DEFINES him for me. He's just ... blokey. He can be sensitive about some things (money, clothes, status) and yet be completely oblivious about other important things. He can be loyal and yet biased- saying 'get away from me, werewolf' to Lupin in PoA is one of the worst things he does in the books, as it hurts Lupin so much and is such a great example of an unthinking prejudice that completely undermines any affection he's had for Lupin as a person for the past months.

That would be quite a different story, and perhaps refreshingly mean if you don't like Ron.
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