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icarusancalion ([personal profile] icarus) wrote2007-05-25 02:14 pm
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The Wild Rumor going around.

I got suckered, too. There's a wild rumor that LJ's being pressured to ban users.

LJ's Abuse team laughed their asses off when they heard it.

I feel a little silly. Okay. More than a little silly.

On the other hand, I really should have thought of the NC-17 content on my LJ when Henry Jenkins linked to the summary of the FanLib situation and it was then linked to BBC. There will be a traffic from outside fandom in this LJ in particular. Troll protection if nothing else. Although no doubt most of it was yesterday and now it's old news.

The Wild Rumor:

I'm copy/pasting this from [livejournal.com profile] ngaio who got it from [livejournal.com profile] yin_again who got it from [livejournal.com profile] xanphibian:


LJ is being pressured to purge right now. This isn't LJ's fault, so please don't stand up and beat your breast against them.

Because of the recent FanLib thing and the wank over the MJ figurine, fandom is in a pretty bright public spotlight right now, and it's not that great for us.

Outside forces are pressuring LJ to delete journals and ban users. It's been going on for about 12 hours now. It is FANNISH people who are under the microscope.

If you have the words 'rape' 'rapefic' 'incest' or 'underage' in your LJ interests and are able to do so, EDIT YOUR USERINFO to remove them. Any variations of these should be removed, too. If I were you, I'd get rid of anything like 'wincest' or 'malfoycest' or the like. Also 'chan' -- because as soon as these mainstream folks figure out what 'chan' is, they're gonna come down on us.

If you have underage or 'cest fic posted public in your journal, I'd lock it. (this is my Yin's personal recommendation and not that of anyone 'official') Any squeeing over 'cest fics or fic with any underage characters should be kept behind a lock, too.

This is not going to be a long-term thing. A little hiding and editing of our interests while the black cloud passes over, and we should be fine.

If you want, this can be reposted in your journals, but PLEASE filter out RL people and folks who will make a public stink about it. Someone risked their job to let the LJ fen know what was going on, and we want to keep the fact that we have this info as quiet as possible.

The LJ outages today almost certainly are because of this. It is NOT LJ's fault -- LJ has almost always been welcoming and wonderful to LJ fandom. Please be sure to emphasize this if you pass it on. If you know any names of who knew what or who leaked what, KEEP THEM TO YOURSELF.


P.S. Have a laugh at my expense. I should know better to check these things out.

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2007-05-30 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)
The vigilante group is denying responsibility, but the fact remains they've been contacting LJ since at least April demanding they delete pedophile comms. They pre-date FanLib, which went live in May.

My opinion? The timing was a coincidence.

My opinion? Six Apart looked into the legal risk (the vigilante group has very strong language) and decided that the interests list could be used to say LiveJournal was promoting these things, so they issued a blanket deletion of anyone with "incest" or "pedophile" listed in their interests.

My opinion? The vigilante group did not expect such a blanket action affecting rape and incest support comms and literary groups. Typical of vigilante groups, innocent people get hurt.

Livejournal says:

Dear LiveJournal user,

Material which can be interpreted as expressing interest in, soliciting, or encouraging illegal activity places LiveJournal at considerable legal risk. When journals that contain such material are reported to us, we must suspend them. Because LiveJournal's interests list serves as a search function, and because listing an interest enables other people also interested in a similar topic to gather and/or congregate, we have been advised that listing an interest in an illegal activity must be viewed as using LiveJournal to solicit that illegal activity. We recognize that many people list these types of interests for shock value, as a method of expressing opposition for these illegal activities, or to indicate fictional activity. Unfortunately, we have no discretion in these cases; if a journal profile is reported to us and contains interests that support illegal activity, we must suspend the journal. Journals, on the other hand, may express or imply interest in illegal activity or express or imply a desire to meet and/or interact with others with similar interests, but only if the journal clearly (1) is in opposition to or condemnation of the illegal activity, (2) does not encourage the illegal activity and (3) is not used in furtherance of any illegal activity. Regards, Cassie LiveJournal Abuse Team

Icarus