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icarusancalion ([personal profile] icarus) wrote2006-07-07 08:32 am
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The trouble with diplomacy *eyeroll*

Bush strikes new levels of dumb.

'You know, the problem with diplomacy is it takes a while to get something done …'

Across the world, every diplomat and politician just dropped their collective jaws, thinking 'no shit, Sherlock' in thirty different languages.

Wow. I never knew how clueless he was. He's been doing this job for five and half years and doesn't even get the job description? I don't know about you but if I've been in a job for five years, no matter how little I know about it initially, I'd have figured out the basics by now.

That's like a financial analyst saying: "The problem with the stock market is that it goes up and down."

A backpacker: "The problem with backpacking is you have to carry everything with you."

A climber: "The problem with rock climbing is it's hard on the hands."

Driving: "The problem with driving a car is you have to pay attention."


The rest of Bush's quote reads that while "acting alone, you can move quickly."

[livejournal.com profile] wildernessguru: "This is an administration that believes we can do anything with the barrel of a gun."

Yes. I saw a great bumper sticker about this yesterday. We're making enemies faster than we can kill them.

[identity profile] slb44.livejournal.com 2006-07-07 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
And you know what, the whole thing is just so damn sad.

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2006-07-07 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
It's staggering. No wonder we're in such deep shit.

Icarus

[identity profile] slb44.livejournal.com 2006-07-07 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. That's what makes me so sad.
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[personal profile] trobadora 2006-07-07 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
The sheer idiocy of it is mind-boggling.

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2006-07-07 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I read it. Stopped at that sentence. And read it again. "He can't be... he doesn't. Understand. His. Job." No wonder we're in Iraq.

Icarus
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[personal profile] trobadora 2006-07-07 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. At first I thought that had to be a joke, because no one can honestly be that dumb, right? Right? *despairs*

[identity profile] zoepaleologa.livejournal.com 2006-07-07 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
George (and other politicians) are masters in what my friend at work calls "The cause of stating the total and bleedin' obvious".

In the case of George I think it's because his speechifiers have to keep it really really simple or he'll screw up. As those who support him are not always the sharpest knives in the drawer, it has to be kept simple for them, too.

(I realise I'm a Brit making observations about US politics which might be considered cheeky. If you think I'm speaking outta turn, please delete me - I do not want to offend anyone looking - I only insult in the cause of my own national politics...) ;-)

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2006-07-07 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
To be perfectly honest, you're applying British sensibilities to U.S. politics. Unfortunately, I wish this speech were that clever, a calculated move to manipulate an ignorant cow-like populace. Keep it simple and explain obvious things to the very dumb people who voted for him.

Alas, Bush has this tendency to go off script, to "ad lib." The very reason he's fired everyone who ever argued against invading Iraq, the very reason he's given Rumsfeld a blank check despite his obvious failures and the protests of the Pentagon, is the very reason Bush has to insert "personal touches" into his speeches or phrase things his way. The results are revealing gems like these.

You give him and his speechwriters too much credit.

Also, a lot of his support comes from the fact that he's not a Democrat and favors the wealthy. WG's father is a highly conservative economics professor who's made himself wealthy with intelligent investments, writes a column for a newspaper who is invited to give cruise-ship lectures on investing. He's a smart man, and he supports Bush. Most of the well-heeled people I worked for in finance were Bush-supporters.

Icarus

[identity profile] tjstein.livejournal.com 2006-07-07 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
*shakes head*

I would say that he's made cluelessness into an art form at this point, but that would be an insult to art.

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2006-07-08 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
Could we call it performance art? It's hard to insult performance art.

Icarus

[personal profile] cheshyre 2006-07-07 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I've got ADHD, and even I'm appalled by his cluelessness...

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2006-07-08 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
I can't wait till 2008....

Icarus
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[identity profile] shezan.livejournal.com 2006-07-07 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I'm with him on North Korea. Right now they're banking on us having the will of a seawater clam. Shooting down one of those completely illegal missiles over the Pacific would have expressed the message loud and clear. Do we really want to wait until the madman running that foul concentration-camp state (http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/cRosett/?id=110004200) actually has the power to deliver his nuclear devices anywhere on the planet?

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2006-07-08 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
We're bogged down in Iraq so N. Korea can do what it wants. They know we're toothless at the moment -- all we have are some planes stationed in Guam and our troops in S. Korea have an enormous amount of ordnance aimed at them.

The DoD has claimed for years that they could fight two wars at a time, but what they've neglected to mention is that we don't have the manpower to do so with our all-volunteer military. At the moment all branches of the military are 46% short of their recruitment targets -- and that's just for Iraq. We're relying on Stop-Loss to keep our military personnel.

Also, our anti-balistic missile system doesn't work -- it's the modern pie-in-the-sky Star Wars program (if you recall the Reagan era).

The only thing that could contain N. Korea right now is China. They have the world's largest standing army, a rapidly modernizing navy, and okay, their aircraft are still out of date but even the U.S. couldn't fight China's air forces: it would be a turkey shoot, but we'd run out of missiles before they ran out planes.

Icarus

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2006-07-08 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Just to clarify a little detail on China's military growth: their air forces are also rapidly modernizing. They're license-manufacturing the Russian SU-30 MKI (a more advanced aircraft than anything the U.S. has) and the SU-27. It's just that they only have about 50 of them at the moment.

The huge economic boom in China has meant that their SONG-class nuclear submarine was in the water last year, about two years ahead of schedule. This exploits a weakness in U.S. naval defences. China's been mapping out the sea floor, crossing Japan's territorial waters at will (they say they're doing "oceanographic research" but their not asking Japan and coupled with their submarine program -- yeah, everyone's military is laughing at that excuse).

This really doesn't bode well for Taiwan.

Icarus
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[identity profile] fullygoldy.livejournal.com 2006-07-07 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw a great bumper sticker about this yesterday. We're making enemies faster than we can kill them.

Oh nice! I saw a companion one today: Jesus would slap the shit out of you

I think I need both now.

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2006-07-08 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
There you go. *shakes head*

Icarus
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[identity profile] aizjanika.livejournal.com 2006-07-08 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
The bumper sticker that I saw yesterday:

"It's God's job to judge the terrorists. It's our job to hasten the meeting. U.S. Marines"

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2006-07-08 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Too bad we're in Iraq fighting Iraqis instead of doing the far more difficult job of rooting out the terrorist organizations responsible for 9/11.

Sometimes I think we're over there just because it's easier (this is a relative term) and results are more measureable, as opposed to the kind of intelligence gathering and infiltration that solving the terrorist problem would take.

Icarus
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[identity profile] aizjanika.livejournal.com 2006-07-08 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's possible to solve the terrorist problem--not that way, really.

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2006-07-08 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
It's like "solving" the drug problem -- yeah, right. Attacking Iraq doesn't do anything.

I notice there aren't a lot terrorists attacking Canada though. Maybe that's the real solution: be Canada. Heh.

Icarus
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[identity profile] aizjanika.livejournal.com 2006-07-08 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Bwah. That reminds me of an SNL skit about sexual harrassment. Basically, the way to avoid a sexual harrassment complaint was to "Be attractive. Don't be unattractive." *g*

Yes, let's be Canada. *g* I'd like to sometimes. heh For some reason, my husband isn't really into that idea. *g*

[identity profile] jaig.livejournal.com 2006-07-08 08:35 am (UTC)(link)
That man can't horrify me anymore, so I just sit back and wait for him to say something I can nervously laugh at. I mean, I'm scared for your country, and I don't even live there.

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2006-07-09 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
I think that's the plan. To wear us down with incredible acts of stupidity until we just there numbly, unable to respond.

Icarus

[identity profile] jaig.livejournal.com 2006-07-09 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
Oh god it's working. :|