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Words cannot describe how much I hate this job. I have never stood being yelled at on a job before. I have never worked for such a coward.

Word got around from Human Resources to Wuss!Boss. Wuss!Boss called me on the phone, said she needed to talk to me. I went right over - that second. If it's bad news, get it over with quick, I say. Wuss!Boss evaded the subject, thought of some things for me to do. Then when I asked, "So. Was this what you needed to talk to me about?" she said, no, there was something else. And proceeded to act all shakey and nervous and didn't continue.

Wait a minute. Who's the Boss and who's the Temp? I'm the one who should be rattled. I said, "All right. Why I don't I finish these projects and come back when you have more time?" She was thrilled with that suggestion.

I came back later -- and she still evaded the subject. What was I gonna have to do, drag it out of her? That's not my job. Finally, a day went by and I asked her, "What was it you needed to talk to me about again?"

She said, "Oh. I don't remember."

Like hell. I walked away thinking, "You wimp."

#1 - I hate liars.
#2 - I hate wimps.

Result: I have no respect for this woman whatsoever. None. All the liking I had for her has completely drained out by this extraordinary display of utter wussiness!

When does school start? I'm about as motivated as a plate of overcooked noodles. Let's hear it for leadership ability, and those who have it!

Date: 2004-09-13 10:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] femmequixotic
We need to quarantine Wuss!Boss and Idiot!Boss on a desert island for the betterment of humanity, I think.

*hugs* I know how you feel, hon. I'd so rather work for someone who had balls, no matter what. Respect is incredibly important in the workplace. If you can't respect your boss...what's the point?

Date: 2004-09-13 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharp-tongue.livejournal.com
Re-es-pe-ct? What a strange word when you combine it with "workplace". What does it mean?

*hates Mondays passionately*

Date: 2004-09-13 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lillian78.livejournal.com
As an administrative assistant I have had my fair share of shitty bosses. That's why I'm getting out and looking for a customer service rep job with hopefully masses of other people doing support work for actual customers instead of waste-of-space bosses who demand the world, pay like shit and kick you around at least twice a week (everything is the admins fault I've learned).

Date: 2004-09-13 10:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
I feel like I could drop my trousers, take a shit outside her door, and there would be no consequences except irritating the cleaning staff.

I am so trying to like her...

How do these people stay in their jobs, year after year after year? I'm with you on the quarantine idea. *shakes head* Man. And they wonder why this department is an utter wreck. Geeze.

I just wish I had something other than my work ethic alone propping my performance right now. I really do.

Icarus

Date: 2004-09-13 10:56 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] femmequixotic
R-E-S-P-E-C-T, find out what it means to me,
R-E-S-P-E-C-T, take care, TCB
Sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me--
A little respect--sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me...

Date: 2004-09-13 11:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] femmequixotic
I know. Believe me. I am so amazed by how Idiot!Boss has managed to hold on for twenty-five YEARS here. *smacks forehead* The very concept of standing up for his staff is foreign to him. As is being forthright and honest and frank and drawing an honest line about what is expected of his employees and of the other departments towards them.

It ends up with the entire organization being in utter chaos. I work in a nonprofit...and I can tell you flat out, I'd not give this place any of my money because I know how fucked up it really is.

It'd just be nice to have a boss with integrity and character who said what they meant and meant what they said.

Just once.

Date: 2004-09-13 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
If it's telephone-based customer service, careful. A lot of telephone customer service jobs are being outsourced to India (Earthlink, AT&T, and a lot of other companies have already made the switch). The Indian CSRs are awful, just absolutely awful. They do as little as possible for the customer. But they're trained in "American English" and use Western names. I deplore this practice, absolutely deplore it. But I would make sure that if I'm a CSR I'm in a field that deals directly with customers and isn't likely to be exported.

Icarus

Date: 2004-09-13 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Funny you should mention you work for a nonprofit -- guess where I am? *toothy forced grin*

They want to hire me. As my friends in Detroit used to say: Sheeeeiiiiiiit....

Icarus

Date: 2004-09-13 11:08 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tigerlilly2063.livejournal.com
I really know how you feel. How can a person gain respect when he's not competent and straightforward? When they have no managerial qualities, you get the impression that you can do everything right infront of their nose.
It's really hard to find a really good boss. I only had one a few years ago. He said what he thought and he was open to my own proposals. He was always fair and that's what I liked so much.
But there are worse than a wimp!boss. When I worked at the university my project manager was a person who always put the blame on me. He nearly never told me what to do and every now and then he was angry 'cause nothing was done in the way he thought. Hell, am I a seer? And when I told him what I thought he always had the ability to turn things against me. I'm really glad that I'm not working there anymore.

Hope you'll find a better one. Make your own way.
But perhaps you should "corner" her, wait it out when you're with her again. Probably it's pushing her into the right direction. She has to tell you someday.

Date: 2004-09-13 11:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] femmequixotic
A word of advice? Run. Run for the hills. You will be so disillusioned...even more so than you'd find yourself in the corporate world. Because nonprofit work is supposed to mean something and then you get into it and the negativity and disorganization and frustration is harder to deal with than it is in corporate America. Because at least you go into that environment expecting it. *sigh*

This is the second nonprofit I've worked for and I just won't do it again.

Plus once nonprofits find out you have a work ethic...they'll run you into the ground piling projects onto you. *shakes head*

Date: 2004-09-13 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Oh, there are many awful bosses, and I frankly hate Being the boss, because you find yourself in so many no-win situations. But my frustration with being treated poorly by her staff when she herself is very gentle and decent (but again, has the backbone of a wisp of smoke) has combined with my general unhappy feelings about admin work in general.

She has to tell you someday.

Nah. I'm leaving in two weeks. That's one reason she backed out of it. I was intending to come back next year, because I really like what the company is about. But... maybe not.

Icarus

Date: 2004-09-13 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
I kind of like the Asian ladies here. They have their own little community, they joke about the worst things (it's quite funny), and they generally tend to avoid sticking their necks out.

Icarus

Date: 2004-09-13 11:37 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tigerlilly2063.livejournal.com
Yeah, it's not easy to be the boss. I had some problems in a similar situation when I was running a lecture at the university with a colleague. It's not really the same situation but you still have to hold up the respect and the required distance. But my colleague began to be on a "friendship"-relation with them, messed everything up.

When you're really unhappy in your situation it's probably the best when you're leaving in two weeks. You'll find something else, I'm sure about that. And probably your next boss is somewhat better.

I get it...

Date: 2004-09-13 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ixchelmala.livejournal.com
It really sucks when you have to manage your managers. I have two bosses like that now. Nothing like working at McDonalds... oh wait, that's right, I work for a major corporation where people are supposed to be professional.

Right.

I wish you loads of patience and luck.

Date: 2004-09-13 12:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Oh, no, I'm going back to school in two weeks. I'm a full-time student right now, going back after 15 years of admin. I'm just starting my second year.

This wouldn't be an issue if there weren't a standing offer to come back next year after school's out... tempting for a student, n'est pas, to have a steady summer job?

Icarus


Date: 2004-09-13 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adred.livejournal.com
Icarus,
I feel like I could drop my trousers, take a shit outside her door
When I was looking for inspiration for quitting my last job (like I needed any more ammo), I found this on a website.

"Dear Cherie,
I am the Phantom Logger of Goods In. It is time to build a new life, a whole new identity for myself, perhaps in a light industrial town in the East Midlands. My days as a stealth shite-r are over. It only remains for me to apologise for the hitherto unexplained outbreak of cable-laying, dumping, dirt-birthing and fouling that has beset this office. The steaming deposits that have pockmarked the department are all my doings. There'll be no need to call in the Environmental Health people. One last thing, I am definitely NOT responsible for those curious stains on the curtains."

You're not alone ;-)
(This wasn't mine, BTW!)
Lastly, as someone who has problems with authority, I can tell you that Bosses are definately not there to be liked.
Sadly, this doesn't solve your problem.

Date: 2004-09-13 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
LOLOLOLOL! That's absolutely awful. Thank you, that brightened my afternoon.

*sighs* Time to try to get motivated....

Icarus

Date: 2004-09-13 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leni-jess.livejournal.com
You can hope that in the intervening ten months karma catches up with at least one of these people. So don't knock back the offer of work next summer yet - wait until you know what the situation will be then. (It's not as if your management has earned any consideration from you.)

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