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While stuck on the next scene of my skating fic, I've been scoping out David Hewlett fansites. Things I've learned about his career in the process:


- David is frequently badly dressed, in colors that might sear out your eyes.

- David has a lot of nude scenes for a man who hasn't actually done porn (gay, straight or other), even though he is rarely (never?) the romantic lead. He's often the only one standing naked in the shower, or shirtless, or in his underwear what-have-you.

- David is often kissed, despite the fact that he's, once again, not the romantic lead.

- If David is the boyfriend, he's the ex-boyfriend, or the drug-dealer boyfriend.

- David looks good in hats.

- David's characters are generally doomed!

- David has played a lot of homicidal maniacs, pedophiles, drug addicts, drug dealers, drunks -- did I mention the homicidal maniacs? These characters are strangely sympathetic even as they make your skin crawl.

- Where David isn't playing a homicidal maniac, he is the amusing sidekick. If not the amusing drunk sidekick, or the amusing loser sidekick, or...

- David moves around too much to look good in a suit. He's rumpled in seconds.

- David's been gay in a fair number of movies, which makes me happy.

- Guns. David has carried a gun a surprising amount. Usually, he's the guy pointing it at the helpless victim, or otherwise is the pathetic (doomed!) soldier, or the bumbling (doomed!) thief.

- If David plays a cop it's barely more than a walk-on.

- David was a father once. It's such an anomaly that it stands out.

- David's been in a lot of sci-fi, supernatural and just-plain-weird movies. In these he's often doomed! or else he's the essential scientist (and also doomed).

- David likes being nude. He's nude in a piece that he wrote, directed and starred in. This is someone who likes nudity.

- I like David to be nude as well, so intend to do whatever I can to encourage this particular habit. Surely Dr. McKay will need to be stripped down and fumigated from some trip to a planet where he's allergic to everything.*



ETA: The most interesting-sounding movies of David's that I haven't seen:
Cube
Elevated
Clutch

Others:
Treed Murray
Icemen

*ETA2: I am now taking suggestions for various ways in which Dr. McKay can end up nude in an SGA episode, with varying degrees of plausibility allowed. So far we have the allergic fumigation, the cloth-eating nanites....
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Date: 2006-03-06 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autumndandelion.livejournal.com
A way for the clothes to go bubbye:

Convinced that he can handle Asgard technology as well as or better than Hermiod, Rodney decides to beam himself from the Daedalus to the Orion, onto to make the mistake of beaming himself aboard sans clothing.

Date: 2006-03-06 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
See, now that has the plus of bringing Rodney's personality into the mix. Because he would so do that. :D

Icarus

Date: 2006-03-06 02:20 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
Reasons why Rodney would get naked #1,043 in this fic here: http://www.ltljverse.com/watergate/stories/typicalday.htm by Martha Wilson. *g* Well, it made me laugh, anyway.

Date: 2006-03-06 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
As soon as I finish finals, my 7 papers for the Lotus Sutra class, my 5-page history paper, and my two Shakespeare papers, I'll have time to live again.

(Don't look at me like that about the figure-skating AU. It is not sane for me to be writing it right now, yet I. Can't. Seem. To stop.)

Icarus

Date: 2006-03-07 04:38 am (UTC)
zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
Oh, wow. That's a lot of papers. *shudders*

But it's only a short ficlet really, and the nekkidness is a tiny plot twist, which is why I didn't want to give the reason for the nekkid Rodney in my post. And it has a happy/funny ending, so. Maybe it could cheer you up? *g*

Date: 2006-03-06 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellex42.livejournal.com
You have a lot of comments here, and I don't feel like reading them all...

...but I can heartily recommend 'Treed Murray'. Just remember that Dave's character is not entirely sympathetic in it, although he snarks like mad, though much nastier than McKay.

If you can play a region 1 DVD, you can get it pretty cheap from Walmart.com. It was renamed 'Get Down' for the USA version, though. No clue why, but foreign (because yes, Canada is completely a 'foreign country', LOL) films are often renamed for US release. *waves at Canadian neighbors*

'Cube' is also great, but I hope you aren't easily squicked, because there are some really awful scenes in it. It *is* a horror movie, after all.

As to your 'how to get Rodney naked on SGA' query: whumping is always good. If his clothes are covered in blood, you could probably get at least his shirt off. Toxic substances are a nice stand-by (recalling the benzene spill ep of ER), and then you get decon shower Rodney into the bargain! And Tipper wrote a story called 'The Trench', in which his clothes are in tatters from being in a river of acidic water (gen story, sorry. You can find it on Fanfiction.net, but it *is* an excellent adventure/whump fic).

Date: 2006-03-06 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
I am easily squicked. Very easily.

My boyfriend had heard of Cube, and says it's a really ugly horror flick. I may just rent it anyway (I am that David obsessed) and watch, oh, Cinderella afterward.

The title Get Down truly sucks. *points and laughs at U.S. distributors.*

Tattered clothes... I like it.

Icarus

Date: 2006-03-06 05:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellex42.livejournal.com
Oh, do see 'Cube' anyways. It's worth it, really. It certainly will make you think. The really squicky parts are easy to avoid. Just don't watch when anyone (other than David) goes into a room alone. That's when most of the bad stuff happens.

Also, it doesn't end well for his character. Really, it doesn't end well for any of the characters. When you get to the end, you'll just kind of sit there for a few minutes going, "Wait, that's it? You're ending it there?!"

More questions than answers type of thing. Still worth watching for David's performance as an extremely reluctant hero.

Date: 2006-03-06 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cetpar.livejournal.com
I second [livejournal.com profile] ellex42. 'Cube' is definitely worth watching for David's performance and for the mess-with-your-head nature of the film. I fast-forwarded through the icky parts, too, and it was worth it. There were 2 sequels to it that don't have David in them and (i've heard) aren't very good, so make sure you get the right one.

Date: 2006-03-06 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalikahuntress.livejournal.com
I saw Boys of St. Vincent a long time ago and didn't realize that David was in it. I have to track it down again, thanks:)

Date: 2006-03-06 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, he's in the second part. His role is especially sad (and desperate) when you know which of the little kids he'd been.

Doomed. Doomed as usual.

Icarus

ways to get Rodney naked

Date: 2006-03-06 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melagan.livejournal.com
Please, please let me play too.

1. Rodney has to make repairs in a tight enclosure that he can only reach by being naked and well oiled.

2. Rodney’s exposed to a substance that makes his skin turn purple and the condition is aggravated by wearing clothes. John is fascinated by the purple streaks (oops that just snuck in)

3. All of the clothing has been attacked by parasites that make fibers crumble like ash.

4. The wraith grab Rodney and strip him down and put him on display just because (thanks to Carson’s retrovirus) they’ve finally learned to appreciate a fine ass more than a good meal.

Re: ways to get Rodney naked

Date: 2006-03-06 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
The more the... well now that just sounds like an oiled orgy, doesn't it?

4. The wraith grab Rodney and strip him down and put him on display just because (thanks to Carson’s retrovirus) they’ve finally learned to appreciate a fine ass more than a good meal.

Ahhh, the benefits of civilization.

Icarus

Date: 2006-03-06 05:47 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nakedwesley.livejournal.com
I was so happy he didn't die in one movie I was watching I almost cried.

You must see Treed Murray! He does such a wonderful job...even if he is fully clothed for the whole thing.

He has been in some weird ass movies. Elevated completely freaked me out, but then it's a Natali movie - a short film, actually - so no surprise there. Vincenzo scares me.

Date: 2006-03-07 04:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
You have to wonder about David's friends....

Thanks for the good word on Treed Murray. I'll definitely check it out.

Icarus

Date: 2006-03-06 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inkanaitis.livejournal.com
- I like David to be nude as well, so intend to do whatever I can to encourage this particular habit. Surely Dr. McKay will need to be stripped down and fumigated from some trip to a planet where he's allergic to everything.*

I heartily agree.

Plus in your research, have you noticed anything a bit... gay in his relationship with Vincenzo Natali. Or are my slash goggles taking over my brain. <- a very likely possibility

Date: 2006-03-06 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
I'm always careful about openly speculating about actors' personal lives on open threads. Locked threads or chat, yes, I'll yak away. It's how I draw the line between a private conversation and a public discussion. A simple matter of politeness. I try to remember that I have an f-list of 700 people.

Now, by sharing that shiny bum David has laid himself wide open for all sorts of happy leering on our parts. So I hope he enjoys the attention.

What I will say is that David, in interviews and "behind the scenes" Stargate commentaries, acts a lot like any number of theatre people I know: very dramatic, quite the scene stealer, though he seems sweeter than most.

A lot of my theatre friends are gay, so many that they didn't have a maternity policy at at work -- in twenty years it had never come up!

On the other hand, the logic of that is like saying, "Well, the owner of the theatre is gay, and his name is David, so David Hewlett must be too." *shrugs*

Rolling into common knowledge here...

Things get further blurred because of the Hollywood tradition of the "public image" that you don't have in theatre. So, since TV and Film actors are much more in the public eye, you have the ol' Rock Hudson-style "wife" a lot of the time, or at least the "girlfriend" (who's frequently lesbian in my experience with closted friends). Just to help the career, continue to land the "leading man" roles, etc., etc. It's amazing how much obvious gay-ness people are willing to overlook so long as there's a girlfriend or -- best of all -- baby in the picture somewhere.

Further complicating the issue is the fact that while there are a lot of straight men who've never slept with a guy (or at least that's what they insist), there are precious few gay men who've had strictly gay relationships. It's pretty common for guys to have their main emotional relationships with women and then sleep with men, or have a mixed bag of relationships.

Throw in that David Hewlett and I have never met and he hasn't exactly confided in me-? *double shrug*

Okay, that's the official statement. Ping me in chat (same name as the LJ) and I'll tell you what I really think.

Icarus

Date: 2006-04-16 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sgafan33.livejournal.com
I haven't read every single entry, so I don't know if this has already been said. According to Jaime Ray Newman, the actress who played Lt. Laura Cadman, in the scene in "Duet" where Rodney is in Laura's bed, he actually is naked.

DO YOU HAVE AN ANECDOTE ABOUT THE SHOOT?
McKay is actually naked underneath those sheets when he wakes up in my room, during "Duet". We did it several times with nude underwear on, but it didn't look right. Finally, David stripped them off, and once he did it in the buff, the scene fell nicely into place. He was very embarrassed!


http://www.ledelirium.com/forum/sutra17676.html#17676

Off topic, John de Lancie, the actor who played "Q" on Star Trek: The Next Generation, did the same thing in an episode where his character was stripped of his "Q" powers and left on the Enterprise. de Lancie got tired of the re-takes because of the garment getting into the shot. He told the crew "If anybody is going to be offended, please leave" and took it off. He didn't have a sheet to hide his modesty like David did.

Date: 2006-04-16 07:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Guh.

Thank you. I'm now off to rewatch "Duet" 900 times.

Do you get the impression that they want the slash fandom to write McKay/Beckett? I've had a friend ask more for it, but I don't quite have the heart to inflict Rodney on the gentle Carson.

Icarus

nearly a year late to the table, but

Date: 2007-01-21 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merrilily.livejournal.com
I would like to add to your list of things about DH that he always seems to be wearing a watch on his right wrist. It's not a major personality insight, I know, but there you go. Also, he has a habit of rounding his shoulders. Too much time spent over a laptop, I surmise.

Re: nearly a year late to the table, but

Date: 2007-01-21 04:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Welcome aboard, heh.

Watch: Huh. Does that mean he's left-handed?

Also, definitely with the rounded shoulders.

Icarus
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