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I was looking for Cyteen, Justin/Grant slash, and found none. But I did find this.

Date: 2004-01-18 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kragey.livejournal.com
Again, we are alone in this world. ::Bangs head off of a wall::

Date: 2004-01-18 12:15 am (UTC)
ursula: bear eating salmon (Default)
From: [personal profile] ursula
My God, someone else noticed the insane slashiness of the Morgaine series!

I actually thought of mentioning Cyteen on one of your previous posts today, as one of the mainstream science-fiction books involving sex that screwed with my mind as a teen (Octavia Butler's Imago series is another strong contender). One of the themes of Cyteen is that the rational, sensible, supporting-character personalities get fucked over in all ways, and that's sort of where I was placing myself . . . (And I read it just after getting dumped, and all my hormones were twitching madly, cough.)

Date: 2004-01-18 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
There are so many fade-to-back scenes where the Justin/Grant relationship is left on the sidelines and I'm left thinking... and then?

Man, I know Cherryh has some hot scenes that she cut, sitting on her shelf somewhere. *sigh*

Icarus

Date: 2004-01-18 12:57 am (UTC)
ursula: bear eating salmon (Default)
From: [personal profile] ursula
I think in a Cherryh novel nobody is allowed to relieve stress until the last page and a half of the last book in the series.

Date: 2004-01-18 04:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
I'm sure she would have found a way to make the sex angsty. :D

Icarus

Date: 2004-01-18 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wanderingscribe.livejournal.com
Hehehe. That's one cool link; it even mentioned "Enigma", which I used to read before I knew about slash and was a huge comic geek. Day-mn, I knew there was UST, but I couldn't place my finger at the time.

I so love being right [does an 'I'm so cool' dance] XD

Re: Yeah, pimping.

Date: 2004-01-18 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Oh maaaannnn, bummer. I thought you had a community with Cyteen slash. *pouts*

Icarus

Date: 2004-01-18 06:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leni-jess.livejournal.com
I'm sorry you didn't find any Justin/Grant fanfic slash - though Cherryh does her own very damn well! Why ask for more? Unless you want explicit, she doesn't do that.

The site you refer us to is interesting, and has a lot of good suggestions - unfortunately it has major inaccuracies too.

David Drake wrote the Igniting the Reaches trilogy. And masses of other stuff, very little of which has anything you could call slashy vibes. It's good fic; I don't care!

Another guy completely writes the Lord of the Fire Lands and other Blades novels: Dave Duncan. He wrote a lot of other good stuff too. The Swordsman trilogy may well be the best, though not the most popular. Well, go look him up, if you don't know his work. You probably do.

Lynn Flewelling: spot on. Very readable.

Ellen Kushner's Swordspoint: ahh! Marvellous. Baroque. Read the follow-up she's published recently with Delia Sherman, The Fall of the King. I haven't, yet, but I bought it, and look forward to reading it. There are some allied short stories, too.

Umm. In his/her criticism of Lackey's Magic trilogy, it forgets that this came first, right after the Arrows of the Queen trilogy (all the other elaborations on the menu come later; this is the first show). Yes, in some respects it's over the top, but it was early, folks, early. And it's impressive. You want angst? Try Vanyel!

I feel impelled to defend Elizabeth Lynne's A Different Light as bloody marvellous (whatever slash or not-slash elements enter into it). That ain't all, either; if you want explicit slash( m/m or f/f), check out the later trilogy (Watchtower, (The Dancers of Arun, and The Northern Girl). Not perfect, but extremely readable. If you want on-the-edge hard-to-take slash, try her The Sardonyx Net - non-con and every other label you can think of; some really twisted, and detailed, characterisations here. And beautifully executed.

Better stop, I don't want to spend the night criticising!

Date: 2004-01-18 10:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Unless you want explicit, she doesn't do that.

Explicit, explicit! At least as much as he gives us with Ariane Emory. *sigh* Oh well.

The site you refer us to is interesting, and has a lot of good suggestions - unfortunately it has major inaccuracies too.

Yes. For one thing, I find plenty of fire between Grant and Justin. Just because they meet first on an intellectual level doesn't dump cold water on the rest of the relationship. S/he obviously hasn't spent hours enjoying the subtle dom/sub implications of a Grant/Justin relationship.

In his/her criticism of Lackey's Magic trilogy, it forgets that this came first

She always regretted the, er, incident with Tylendel, you could tell. I always liked the compassionate ideals of the Heralds and am surprised that that's just overlooked in the description. Oh well, different strokes, different folks and all that rot.

Hey, thanks for pointing out the mistakes and making your own recommendations. Very interesting.

Icarus



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