The REAL 'SNAFU.'
Apr. 2nd, 2004 09:54 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
icarus... is living up to its name. I now know what J. R. R. Tolkien's was talking about when he got Frodo in an untenable situation, from which he saw no way out. (This was at the Fords outside Rivendell, by the way.) I used to think, how can a writer get their character into a situation they didn't plan? Isn't that what an outline's for?
Oh, it's doable.
It's going to take something get Draco out of this mess. Man.
I think I'm going to skip to Ron's part of the story which isn't stuck. Though what they're both attempting fits my definition of insane.
Oh, it's doable.
It's going to take something get Draco out of this mess. Man.
I think I'm going to skip to Ron's part of the story which isn't stuck. Though what they're both attempting fits my definition of insane.
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Date: 2004-04-02 10:26 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-02 10:34 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-02 11:02 am (UTC)There's a reason why I don't write fanfic, you know...
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Date: 2004-04-02 11:12 am (UTC)Oh. Wait. No house-elves in the prison.
Oh well.
Icarus
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Date: 2004-04-02 12:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-02 12:43 pm (UTC)Icarus
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Date: 2004-04-02 12:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-02 03:21 pm (UTC)Icarus
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Date: 2004-04-02 12:50 pm (UTC)But it doesn't sound like you need a Deus Ex Machina: more like Carmen Ex Machina, that is, a spell. How about something along the lines of a ball of twine? Or breadcrumbs, à la Hansel and Gretel? If you don't want him getting out too easily, someone or something could move one of the ends. (Or eat the breadcrumbs, of course.)
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Date: 2004-04-02 03:19 pm (UTC)Icarus
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Date: 2004-04-02 05:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-02 07:27 pm (UTC)Of course, the loophole makes no difference to the real story, though at the moment these house-elves matter to Draco a great deal.
But the scene has switched to Ron, so we'll have to see what happens.
I'm thinking I should probably consolidate Ron's whole scene and then... Oh. Draco's problem has thrown the entire outline into a tizzy.
Icarus
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Date: 2004-04-02 12:34 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-02 11:10 am (UTC)It was a pincer action that depended mostly on the horses of wraiths panicking.
So the answer is: we need to have several things happen at once to get Draco out of his mess.
Icarus
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Date: 2004-04-02 11:30 am (UTC)*adds to ever growing to-read pile*
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Date: 2004-04-02 11:39 am (UTC)Icarus
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Date: 2004-04-02 11:47 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-02 11:54 am (UTC)Icarus
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Date: 2004-04-02 12:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-02 01:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-02 01:31 pm (UTC)I haven't been around for a while, though I poked my head in a week ago to introduce a friend. They started really getting into RPGs, got flooded with a lot of Orli fans and a many of the 'high brow' old-timers left.
Can you believe that's where I discovered slash?
Icarus
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Date: 2004-04-02 01:40 pm (UTC)Icarus/Maril
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Date: 2004-04-02 02:29 pm (UTC)lol. I can't believe you discovered slash there. I remember the big hoorah over 'LotR is great Christian fun, Harry Potter is the devil' debate. Of course, that was when there was an actual language board on the site. Ah, well.
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Date: 2004-04-02 03:16 pm (UTC)*Icarus puts on her Tolkien-forum voice.*
I trotted out the usual quotes from Tolkien to the effect that his books are not Christian Allegory, or Allegorical in any way and therefore not expressly Christian. That to claim the morality apparent in the LotR means that it is specifically Christian is to claim that only Christianity has morality. At which point I pulled out the Buddhist moral code and the 360 vows of a monk.
To claim the fact that Tolkien was Christian and therefore his books were Christian as well is to claim that since Tolkien was white, therefore his books are 'white.'
Don't get me started. One of the reasons I'm not on the 'downs is the endless religious debates. You'd beat one debator down, and ten more threads would pop up. Mithadan was puzzled by the 'religious element.'
I remember you. You were part of the Barrow-downs party, and you posted a lot in the movies forum IIRC.
The way I discovered slash there was someone was railing against it and included a link. I didn't even know what "slash" was, but if I was going to form an opinion about it I'd best study the phenomenon. I was lucky. The slash they posted was Bill The Pony's 'Foolish Games' and it was hot.
I started writing Frodo/Sam slash shortly thereafter.
Hmm. I also noticed the parts they were complaining about were pretty far into the story, towards the end of, oh, 20 pages? They had to have read the whole thing thoroughly.
My. They must have hated it. ;)
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Date: 2004-04-03 04:16 pm (UTC)Yeah, I could be found in the movie and language sections a lot, more because I belonged to a movies site and had scoops, and also because while I avidly read the other boards concerning the books, usually the questions were answered by the time I got there, and all I could offer up was an agreement (not wanting to add a useless post).
If 'Foolish Games' bothered them, I wonder what some of the other stories I've read in that fandom would do to them... *veg*
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Date: 2004-04-02 10:27 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-02 11:11 am (UTC)Icarus
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Date: 2004-04-02 02:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-02 03:27 pm (UTC)Icarus
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Date: 2004-04-02 10:34 am (UTC)...it worked for me. (In "Love and Foundries," a musical comedy about nineteenth-century socialism. Don't ask.)
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Date: 2004-04-02 11:14 am (UTC)Icarus
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Date: 2004-04-02 11:49 am (UTC)Has he got any dungbombs?
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Date: 2004-04-02 11:56 am (UTC)Icarus
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Date: 2004-04-02 11:58 am (UTC)Bother. Writing screw-ups is much harder than writing plans that go swimmingly.
Icarus
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Date: 2004-04-02 12:22 pm (UTC)Oh, wait...
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Date: 2004-04-02 12:23 pm (UTC)I've read GoF. Heh.
Icarus *heads off to write the hard parts.*
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Date: 2004-04-02 11:45 am (UTC)Play dead?
Bat his eyes and put whoever it is under the spell of his stunning good looks who then proceeds to beg him for it?
Wait, that last one was for me. I knew there was a reason I'm not a writer.
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Date: 2004-04-02 11:57 am (UTC)No.
Yes. But that was just for you. ;)
Icarus
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Date: 2004-04-02 07:56 pm (UTC)(I originally typed that with capitalized nouns, then realized it made sound like Don Henley was going to rescue Draco. Now that would a hell of a D-E-M!)
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Date: 2004-04-02 07:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-03 12:45 am (UTC)I suppose I should quit now, before I invoke the wrath of Eagles fans everywhere. LOL
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Date: 2004-04-02 08:20 pm (UTC)Uh. Except for that underground Ministry part of the equation.
Icarus
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Date: 2004-04-02 09:58 pm (UTC)