The Harry Potter Starter Kit
Jun. 28th, 2004 10:39 amWhat would you recommend for the dewy-eyed, fresh slash reader, who has just stepped off the train into this wonderous world of Harry Potter slash? (Gen of course is acceptable, too. Het... do we even read het? *Icarus looks puzzled at the mere idea.*)
This hypothetical (actual) reader has no idea what they like or what they want. They've read all the books, and love them. They enjoy slash.
Naturally we would want to start them off with the best available, but gently. (
amanuensis1's And Just Plain Wrong is probably not the first item on the list.)
Criteria:
- They would need to be completed fics. We can introduce them to the frustration and joys of the WiP later.
- We need a "sampler" cross-section of various pairings.
Student/Student mixes (Harry/Draco, Harry/Ron, Ron/Draco, Percy/Harry etc.), Student/Adult mixes (Harry/Snape, Harry/Lucius, Percy/Lucius etc.), Adult/Adult mixes (Snape/Lucius, Sirius/Remus, Sirius/Snape etc.) This like a box of chocolates, with many varieties. :D
- We need a mix from PG-13 to NC-17 PWP.
- We need to start with stories that have good solid plots.
- We want humour to start, then angst, then a PWP, etc.
- One-shots and epics welcome.
- Rare pairings are welcome, but since this is an intro, it's probably best to have more than one story in that pairing.
- We're looking for specific recs rather than rec-lists.
- We'll probably avoid the major squicks in the beginning: Incest, Non-Con, Chan, MPreg, Heavy Kink.
What would you recommend?
I'll consolidate this down to a, oh, top 20 or something later in the week, or at least put it in some semblance of an order.
In no particular order (yet) and still missing those fics that I haven't read or don't know the author, since I'll have to read those first to rec them to my friend-of-friend. Bear in mind that I threw away the "must be tame" requirement, and the "stick to popular pairings" requirement as well.
The Lodger -
mad_martha, Harry/Draco
Art of War -
kennahijja, Gen, Ron, Draco
The Lecture - Grindylowe, Gen, Snape
Call Of The Wild - WolfieTwins, Gen, Remus
A Bittersweet Poison -
alchemia and Bugland, Harry/Snape
The Tea Series - Telanu, Harry/Snape
Sytherin Sky -
kay_taylor, Snape/Lucius
In A Dream - Nope, Snape/Draco
Transfigurations -
resonant8, Harry/Draco
The Familiar -
resonant8, Harry/Snape
Circles of Power -
mad_martha, Harry/Ron
Irresistible Poison - Rysenn, Harry/Draco
Slowly But Exceeding Fine -
ellen_fremedon, Snape/Sirius
Stone Cold Sober -
fabularasa, Sirus/Snape
Aftermath -
josanpq, Snape/Ron
Civil War -
wikdsushi, Harry/Snape
Consequences Of A Weary Mind -
wikdsushi, Harry/Snape
Hallelujah series -
dien, Snape/Dumbledore
Walking 'Round In Women's Underwear -
dkwilliams
Don't Judge A Book By Its Cover -
mad_maudlin, Ron/Draco
Beg Me For It - Icarus (cringes - two people included it - cringes some more), Ron/Draco
Minor Arcana -
cursive, Harry/Draco, Remus/Draco, Harry/Snape...
Stealing Harry -
copperbadge
Lust Over Pendle -
ajhalluk, Draco/Neville
Double Or Nothing -
ukcalico, Fred/George
The Badger Series -
mistful, Draco/Zacharias
Door To the River -
miraminx, Sirius/Remus
Discretion Required -
ruhgozler, Harry/Lucius
The Way Of The World -
scribbulus_ink, Snape/Lupin
A Nick In Time -
tiranog
Just Add Water -
cybelesan, Harry/Bill
Quill And Ink -
cybelesan, Harry/Snape
Later in the list:
If You Are Prepared -
cybelesan, Harry/Snape
A World Not So Black And White -
amanuensis1
Het Fics.
Apparently The Draco Trilogy is more het than gen. Who knew? So...
The Draco Trilogy -
epicyclical
Flame And Shadow -
mistful, Ron/Pansy
Roman Holiday - Anna, Hermione/Draco, Hermione/Snape
ETA: I'll kick this off with Mad Martha's The Lodger Harry/Draco, which has an excellent plot, many funny moments, and a "canon" feel.
Then, A Bittersweet Poison, Harry/Snape, which has the most accurate rendering of Harry as a cat and a very convincing Snape.
I'll bend the rules (since part is complete) and recommend Telanu's Tea Series, too. It builds beautifully from being being fairly innocent to extremely steamy. I'll toss in the Coffee Series for good measure, because it's funnier than heck.
Let's see... next...
mad_maudlin. Ron/Draco. Hmm... cross-dressing is kind of a mild kink, but Don't Judge A Book By Its Cover stands on the line between ruthless and fun. I'll probably put it further down the list though.
ETA2: Of course, everyone has to read
epicyclical's Draco Trilogy (apologies to those who hate it, it is a must ;), and my personal favourite After The Flood.
In the Gen category, Call of the Wild by the Wolfie Twins.
Does anyone know any good Lucius slash?
ETA3: Okay, I've completely given up the ghost on keeping it tame. Some very valid points have been made about what has actually drawn people in to fandom. Most people have been drawn in by "heavy" fics.
So does anyone know any good GredNForge fics? Slash and Gen? I have Calico's incredibly hot Double Or Nothing. Anything else out there?
This hypothetical (actual) reader has no idea what they like or what they want. They've read all the books, and love them. They enjoy slash.
Naturally we would want to start them off with the best available, but gently. (
Criteria:
- They would need to be completed fics. We can introduce them to the frustration and joys of the WiP later.
- We need a "sampler" cross-section of various pairings.
Student/Student mixes (Harry/Draco, Harry/Ron, Ron/Draco, Percy/Harry etc.), Student/Adult mixes (Harry/Snape, Harry/Lucius, Percy/Lucius etc.), Adult/Adult mixes (Snape/Lucius, Sirius/Remus, Sirius/Snape etc.) This like a box of chocolates, with many varieties. :D
- We need a mix from PG-13 to NC-17 PWP.
- We need to start with stories that have good solid plots.
- We want humour to start, then angst, then a PWP, etc.
- One-shots and epics welcome.
- Rare pairings are welcome, but since this is an intro, it's probably best to have more than one story in that pairing.
- We're looking for specific recs rather than rec-lists.
- We'll probably avoid the major squicks in the beginning: Incest, Non-Con, Chan, MPreg, Heavy Kink.
What would you recommend?
I'll consolidate this down to a, oh, top 20 or something later in the week, or at least put it in some semblance of an order.
In no particular order (yet) and still missing those fics that I haven't read or don't know the author, since I'll have to read those first to rec them to my friend-of-friend. Bear in mind that I threw away the "must be tame" requirement, and the "stick to popular pairings" requirement as well.
The Lodger -
Art of War -
The Lecture - Grindylowe, Gen, Snape
Call Of The Wild - WolfieTwins, Gen, Remus
A Bittersweet Poison -
The Tea Series - Telanu, Harry/Snape
Sytherin Sky -
In A Dream - Nope, Snape/Draco
Transfigurations -
The Familiar -
Circles of Power -
Irresistible Poison - Rysenn, Harry/Draco
Slowly But Exceeding Fine -
Stone Cold Sober -
Aftermath -
Civil War -
Consequences Of A Weary Mind -
Hallelujah series -
Walking 'Round In Women's Underwear -
Don't Judge A Book By Its Cover -
Beg Me For It - Icarus (cringes - two people included it - cringes some more), Ron/Draco
Minor Arcana -
Stealing Harry -
Lust Over Pendle -
Double Or Nothing -
The Badger Series -
Door To the River -
Discretion Required -
The Way Of The World -
A Nick In Time -
Just Add Water -
Quill And Ink -
Later in the list:
If You Are Prepared -
A World Not So Black And White -
Het Fics.
Apparently The Draco Trilogy is more het than gen. Who knew? So...
The Draco Trilogy -
Flame And Shadow -
Roman Holiday - Anna, Hermione/Draco, Hermione/Snape
ETA: I'll kick this off with Mad Martha's The Lodger Harry/Draco, which has an excellent plot, many funny moments, and a "canon" feel.
Then, A Bittersweet Poison, Harry/Snape, which has the most accurate rendering of Harry as a cat and a very convincing Snape.
I'll bend the rules (since part is complete) and recommend Telanu's Tea Series, too. It builds beautifully from being being fairly innocent to extremely steamy. I'll toss in the Coffee Series for good measure, because it's funnier than heck.
Let's see... next...
ETA2: Of course, everyone has to read
In the Gen category, Call of the Wild by the Wolfie Twins.
Does anyone know any good Lucius slash?
ETA3: Okay, I've completely given up the ghost on keeping it tame. Some very valid points have been made about what has actually drawn people in to fandom. Most people have been drawn in by "heavy" fics.
So does anyone know any good GredNForge fics? Slash and Gen? I have Calico's incredibly hot Double Or Nothing. Anything else out there?
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Date: 2004-06-28 11:46 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-06-28 11:52 am (UTC)That's one of my favourites. And obviously it's Percy/Ron.
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Date: 2004-06-28 12:01 pm (UTC)Quills and Ink by Cybele www.swish-n-flick.netfirms.com/toc.htm for humor and student/teacher
Walking 'Round in Women's Underwear by Diana Williams http://diana.slashcity.com/lacy.htm humor adult/adult med kink
And your own Unexpected Guest humor threesome
These are still some of my faves.
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Date: 2004-06-28 12:08 pm (UTC)Icarus
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Date: 2004-06-28 12:03 pm (UTC)And
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And [Bad username or site: Tira Nog @ livejournal.com]'s A Nick In Time.
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Date: 2004-06-28 12:04 pm (UTC)Icarus
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Date: 2004-06-28 12:08 pm (UTC)Also, Thing (http://www.waxjism.org/cimorene/hp/thing.html) by Cimorene and Wax Jism. I know most people either love or hate this story, but I love it with a passion. The build-up of Sirius and Remus's relationship, with the roadblock of... um... Lily (yes, I found something with het for you! Slash with het!). And the breathless trainwreck ending just blows me away.
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Date: 2004-06-28 12:10 pm (UTC)Other than that, we can't go without introducing said newby to
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Date: 2004-06-28 12:17 pm (UTC)Trials and Tribulations, eh?
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Date: 2004-06-28 12:15 pm (UTC)I'd better finish SNAFU today then. 36 pages written so far, out of about 45. And I'm pretty happy with the first 22 pages, the rest is a little rough.
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Date: 2004-06-28 12:24 pm (UTC)http://www.livejournal.com/users/mooders/42503.html
(Also has a Tom Riddle/Giant Squid slash fic... House Elf/Crookshanks slash... Professor Binns/Peeves slash... Dobby/Ernie McMillan slash... Dobby/Remus slash... Tom/Harry slash... think they might want to read any of those, or would those be too squicky?)
-Oowth
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Date: 2004-06-28 12:38 pm (UTC)Icarus
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Date: 2004-06-28 12:32 pm (UTC)I personally think WIPs should be allowed, not only because most of the best stories i know are WIPs, but it will also incite the person to want to read more and thus get even more sucked into HP slash. Imagine the joy you felt at reading A bittersweet potion, and then knowing there was yet more to come! *grovels* still no?
so much for my persuasive skills. If i had nicer thighs i'd post some scandalous pictures to convince you that my way is the best way.
( if this has worked then Maja's Underwater Light, since you mentioned Procul His already) :D
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Date: 2004-06-28 12:47 pm (UTC)Icarus
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Date: 2004-06-28 12:55 pm (UTC)Oh. I have to add Rituals And Traditions to that list.
And what was the name of that piece by Hijja -- Night Over Azkeban, which is Harry/Lucius. And Art of War, Ron/Draco. What a talent for emotional tension.
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Date: 2004-06-28 12:42 pm (UTC)"Contemporary Magical Innovations," which I don't have a link for on this computer but can track down if you need it. It's Snape/Harry, and it's very clever and funny. Also Resonant's The Familiar, which I absolutely adore.
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Date: 2004-06-28 12:44 pm (UTC)Miraminx, thank you. I knew she was writing a lot of good Sirius/Remus, but that's not a pairing I generally read. *nods* Wonderful.
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Date: 2004-06-28 12:46 pm (UTC)Black Roses (http://www.livejournal.com/users/eumenides1/21631.html) by
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Date: 2004-06-28 12:50 pm (UTC)Is
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Date: 2004-06-28 12:55 pm (UTC)1. Snape/Harry:
2. Ron/Draco: Your Beg Me For It series.
3. Snape/Harry; Harry/Draco, Remus/Draco, Snape/Draco:
4. Harry/Ron: Mad Martha's Circles of Power series.
5. Percy/Lucius: The backstory you and
6. Snape/Draco: Nope's As In A Dream
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Date: 2004-06-28 01:13 pm (UTC)Yes, Minor Arcana. And I was thinking of Circles of Power, too. Civil War, yep. Where can I find Nope's As In A Dream?
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Date: 2004-06-28 01:01 pm (UTC)Also
While both of these categorias are more sparse than say HP/DM, there are plenty of fics, many decent or even great, with these pairings. Or at least I think so ^_^
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Date: 2004-06-28 01:07 pm (UTC)Icarus
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Date: 2004-06-28 01:01 pm (UTC)Draco/Zacharias humourfic, in which there is shrugging. PG, set after OotP.
The Consequences Of A Weary Mind (http://www.societyhappens.com/sushi/fiction/my/hp/wearymind.html) by
Friend Like Me (http://www.geocities.com/owrai_fics1/hd/friendlikeme.htm) by Lady Vader. Draco's rendition of the Love story that never was. H/D, NC-17, Angst.
Slytherin Sky (http://www.angelfire.com/ego/vigilantgriffin/snape/fiction/kaytaylor-slytherinsky.html) by
Still Life (http://www.livejournal.com/users/monochromal/25299.html) by
Tissue of Silver (http://www.silververse.net/hp/tissue.htm) by
I have more, but I should probably stop before you get overwhelmed.
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Date: 2004-06-28 01:57 pm (UTC)Thank you!
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Date: 2004-06-28 01:30 pm (UTC)Bittersweet Potion Series
Tada! XD I really wanted to recommend the Tea Series for a first, but I felt that it might be a turn-off for a first-timer that the author hasn't written more of it in quite a long time ^^; Plus, Bittersweet Potion Series is very light but not *too* light. I think, in order to sway those into a fandom, you need to start a bit lighter and less darker... if that makes any sense *__*
Plus, it eases you into the characters and they start to *feel* believable :) That's my two cents, though ^^
I agree, with both A Bittersweet Potion and the Tea Series
Date: 2004-06-28 01:59 pm (UTC)Telanu's just struggling with the next part. It's pretty heavy.
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Date: 2004-06-28 01:36 pm (UTC)Although I would agree with the Lodger, and maybe add Transfigurations (http://trickster.org/res/transfig.html) by Resonant.
Personally the first slash fic I ever read was Irresistable Poison by Rhysenn, and it never did me any harm ;)
Oh crikey - have to add Cybeles If You Are Not Prepared... Love that fic
Transfigurations, nods, and Irresistible Poison. Boy... IYAP, yes, but later.
Date: 2004-06-28 02:02 pm (UTC)But it's so intense, and her writing only slowly picks up steam. I'll put it on the list, but later, with a warning label. (Icarus adds scull and crossbones.)
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Date: 2004-06-28 01:56 pm (UTC)Three years in the fandom and I've still not read it. I should have a badge.
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Date: 2004-06-28 02:02 pm (UTC)grocery listfics. Love, love her writing.Snape/Sirius:
I thought the Draco Trilogy was het. Where have I been?
Yes, Night Over Azkeban, & Art of War -- Slowly But Exceeding Fine - Thank you!
Date: 2004-06-28 02:07 pm (UTC)Hijja has such a talent for emotional tension. Really impressive. Art of War is my favourite Gen of hers. Which of her Lucius stories would you recommend? I've only read Night Over Azkeban (I'm waaaaay behind on my reading.)
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Date: 2004-06-28 02:39 pm (UTC)Link: http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/josan/hp/after01.html
I love her fics, but this one has a special place in my heart.
And I'm honoured that The Lodger is on this list by the way - thank you *blushes*
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Martha?! I've been offline, writing SNAFU - when did you get an LJ??
Date: 2004-06-28 02:48 pm (UTC)Oh, I agree, Josan's Aftermath is the Ron/Snape classic. Not to mention heart-rending.
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From:Martha! *glomps*
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Date: 2004-06-28 02:51 pm (UTC)I think it's archived at Walking the Plank.
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Date: 2004-06-28 03:17 pm (UTC)I do think that "Both Sides Now" by Predatrix is an excellent choice for a newbie's Snarry. Funny and believable and pretty hot besides.
I second "Slytherin Sky." *cough*inspirationforourEvan*cough*
I really shouldn't be making "starter" recs. Honestly. I've pointed people who aren't in the fandom at all to "Blood for a Parched Tongue" by
I think my own "Immortal Beloved" had as many out-fandom readers as ones from within, but none outside the fandom who didn't know me from somewhere else, so I'm not sure it counts. And Snape/Rosier is a bit of a rarepair.
Yes, I do read some things that don't have Snape in them. Sometimes. Er. Right.
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Date: 2004-06-28 03:19 pm (UTC)Also have to rec Roman Holiday (http://www.witchfics.org/anna/romanholiday/index.html) and its sequels Jewel of the Nile and Last Tango in Paris (the latter is still WIP) which is a good Hermione-focused set of stories by Anna. I like her Draco characterization too.
I haven't seen Primer mentioned yet, that's my all time favorite Snape/Harry fic. That's the fic that got me hooked on slash, actually.
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Date: 2004-06-28 04:48 pm (UTC)Yep, for Het, Roman Holiday definitely belongs.
Gosh, I have trouble with Barb's makeover of Harry in Psychic Serpent. His scruffiness is what I like about Harry. If you really think it belongs on there, I'll include it.
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Date: 2004-06-28 04:37 pm (UTC)May I suggest Parseltongue Tied? One of my favorites and it's got humor as well as some angsty angst.
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Date: 2004-06-28 09:49 pm (UTC)Icarus
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Date: 2004-06-28 05:24 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-06-28 09:50 pm (UTC)Any specific fic of
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