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Hooray!

SNAFU is now listed under Beg Me For It on RS.org, and Stand In The Ruins has been sent in to them, as well as chapters 2-5 of Reunion.

Now I have to outline Reunion. Because it seems I have a WiP going. Whoops, how did that happen? I make no promises as to how long it takes me to update this story.

Life has finally levelled out a bit. No new word on [livejournal.com profile] wildernessguru's mom, but it's all good on that end. Now doing the school-schedule do-see-do. I'm trying to study my favourite subject (cue scary organ music and voice frosted with sarcasm): math.

But [livejournal.com profile] goseaward and [livejournal.com profile] sharp_tongue explained over the weekend that Algebra is the logic of describing lines, while Calculus is the logic of describing curves. Which, finally, at long last someone has given me a point to all this stuff! I may suck at it. My eyes may glaze over like someone's describing a really boring dream when someone fires numbers at me. But there is, in fact, a point to this stuff.

(Trig always made sense to me. I used it for my surveying class, and I used it to hand-calculate my astrology charts -- and you're not a real astrologer until you've calculated at least one chart by hand).

Date: 2004-09-03 12:03 pm (UTC)
ursula: bear eating salmon (Default)
From: [personal profile] ursula
. . . What on earth did you think it was for?

Date: 2004-09-03 12:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Algebra was presented to me as random rules without any sort of context. When I asked, what is this for, I was told that I needed to learn it for the SAT, etc., etc., and that I would need to know it to get into a good college.

Yes. That was the answer from my Math teacher.

My art teacher could wax poetic about the fundamental importance of art and self-expression, how it develops individuality and opens up new ways to observe the world.

My english teacher could remonstrate on the wealth of human history and insight into the human condition found in literature.

My language teachers could describe how a whole culture and way of life is contained within a language, that learning it we open ourselves up to another world.

My science teachers could tell me how, if one understands the various fields of science, one understands creation itself.

The history teachers described that the history of the world is the history of mankind, it is our heritage and what has led to what we have today.

But my math teachers just said, "learn it because you have to." And treated my question - "Why" - as I were just being contrary.


Icarus

Date: 2004-09-03 12:34 pm (UTC)
ursula: bear eating salmon (Default)
From: [personal profile] ursula
Yeah, this summer tutoring calculus I noticed that the hardest thing was never doing the calculation; it was understanding that the words in a word problem were asking about math. Which means teaching (and learning) the random facts is the easy part.

It's sort of reassuring, though, to know that my standard answers about patterns and science and money and building things and not letting people scare you with figures aren't an unreasonable place to start.

Date: 2004-09-03 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Oh, I screw up the calculations, too. It's extraordinary how many simple mathematical errors I'm capable of making -- all stupid, careless ones. Forgot to carry the one. 2 x 4 = 6. I suspect the droning litany of ihatethisihatethisihatethisihatethisihatethis in the back of my mind sort of gets in the way of full concentration.

Icarus

Date: 2004-09-03 12:53 pm (UTC)
ursula: bear eating salmon (Default)
From: [personal profile] ursula
Yeah, but everyone makes the careless mistakes. I wrote 1 + 1 = 0 on a calculus exam once. They don't necessarily mean you're bad at math, any more than a habit of typing "teh" means you're a bad writer; they just mean that Proofreading Is A Good Skill.

Date: 2004-09-03 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
I'm convinced there's a bizarre mathematical theory where 1 + 1 does equal 0. *smirks*

Icarus

Date: 2004-09-03 01:27 pm (UTC)
ursula: bear eating salmon (Default)
From: [personal profile] ursula
Oh, there is. But you don't usually try to do calculus on it ;)

Date: 2004-09-03 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Let me guess: Projective Geometry?

Icarus

Date: 2004-09-03 01:38 pm (UTC)
ursula: bear eating salmon (Default)
From: [personal profile] ursula
All sorts of things, actually. Algebraic topology, homological algebra, algebraic geometry . . .

The easiest model I can think of is a reflection in the plane. Doing nothing is 0; reflecting across the y-axis once is 1; reflecting again is 1+1, but that's just the same as doing nothing, so 0.

You can get a slightly more complicated model which allows for addition AND multiplication, in which case 1+1 = 2 = 0, 1+1+1+1 = 4 = 0, 1+1+1+1+1+1 = 6 = 0, so 2 x 4 = 0 x 0 = 0 = 6 ;)

Date: 2004-09-03 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
You can get a slightly more complicated model which allows for addition AND multiplication, in which case 1+1 = 2 = 0, 1+1+1+1 = 4 = 0, 1+1+1+1+1+1 = 6 = 0, so 2 x 4 = 0 x 0 = 0 = 6 ;)

LOL! You know, I've had days like that.

In fact, I'm kind of having one of those now.

Icarus

Date: 2004-09-03 12:11 pm (UTC)
cordelia_v: my default icon (Default)
From: [personal profile] cordelia_v
Trig (like geometry) uses an entirely different part of your brain or mode of thinking than calculus does. Good luck.

Thanks for the update on BMFI. I'd been meaning to ask: the entire series isn't complete yet, is it? When it is, I want to write a lengthy review of it for my lj. But my sense was that you were still going to put in some more material that goes between the current drafts of "Stand in the Ruins" and "Scarred." Is that right? If so, I'll wait for it to be finished.

Glad to hear that things are more on track for you these days, too.

Date: 2004-09-03 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Now that makes sense to me, because I also enjoy Geometry.

A Cordelia Beg Me For It review? *salivates*

The series isn't quite complete:

I want to write more sex. (Yes, that's a guilty grin you see.) It's been on hold for the last couple of weeks for obvious reasons, but hopefully I can get back to it this weekend (since the good news about WG's mom, we've had The Puppy staying with us, so we've been distracted :D ).

Icarus

Date: 2004-09-03 12:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cordelia_v
OK. When it's finished to your satisfaction, note that in your LJ, and I can begin to roll around ideas for an essay on it. But first that gives me the excuse of going back and re-reading it all slowly and carefully (I try to research thoroughly, before writing). What a hideous fate.

Of course, my classes start next week, which is going to slow me down a lot. But your last installment gives me something to look forward to. Now, if only finalizing my course syllabi were half as interesting . . .

Date: 2004-09-03 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
I'll post the whole thing in my LJ when it's ready. It shouldn't be long, I've just been side-tracked by RL. I'm back at university on September 27th, so I can't tinker with it too long.

Icarus

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