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Stolen from... stolen from... oh heck. I dunno. I just finished a mid-term and can't be expected to be sane for at least another hour. **


"If you, reading this, are so inclined to make one phone call, you will nullify a phone call from an anti-gay nutjob. Oh, excuse me, an anti-gay crusader.

Kraft Foods is a major sponsor of the 2006 Gay Games. The nutjobs/crusaders have targeted them and are flooding their phone bank. Want to do something about that? Here's their phone # 1-800-323-0768. Toll free. It only takes a couple of minutes to call them and voice your support for their sponsorship. One call to nullify. Please pass the word to your friends, email addy book, relatives, whomever.

Latest word this morning is that the Kraft phone folks are initially wary when told the call is about their sponsorship, then immensely relieved upon hearing the support, and are still asking people to spread the word because the nutjobs are winning. This entire thing is ridiculous on some level, but it's what we're all reduced to."

Have at it.

ETA: Per [livejournal.com profile] jacki_brown: Here's an email form, if a phone's not readily handy. As you can see from some of the comments in my journal here, there's good reason to call. The anti-gay activists of every stripe are alive and hopping on this subject.


**I remember now: stolen from [livejournal.com profile] wikdsushi, [livejournal.com profile] kijikun, and [livejournal.com profile] nataliadarimini.

Date: 2005-05-13 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lillian78.livejournal.com
I certainly will, if Bob Kraft weren't my favorite guy before (he owns the world champion N.E. Patriots football team) he is now. He and his family are committed to many worthy causes, I hope they dig in and refuse to back down.

Date: 2005-05-13 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Same here.

Icarus

Date: 2005-05-13 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
Excuse me. Does it occur to you that someone might disagree with you on the matter without being a "nutjob"? Thank you for that exemplary display of open-mindendness and Buddhist charity. If that is what it amounts to, I guess I'll stay Catholic for now.

For the record, I heartily disapprove of the notion of Gay Games, because any homosexual sportsperson who is any good is perfectly capable of matching him/herself against his/her equals in the Olympics and other competitions. Everyone knows the names of a few homosexual champions (I, for instance, never saw a woman tennis player who inspired me like Martina N.), and to insist on this sort of separatism is to deny the value of sports as fields of confrontation across borders and distinctions, where individual ability alone counts. The so-called Gay Games are a worthless display of separatism and lack of self-confidence, and belong with "separate but equal" as manifestations of pure prejudice. Congratulations on supporting separatism - did you know that, in Afrikaans, it translates as apartheid?

Date: 2005-05-13 07:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kirby-crow.livejournal.com
Wow. How do you feel about Miss Black America?

Date: 2005-05-13 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
There is a certain difference, in that standards of black and white beauty can differ (although for that matter so do standards among so-called whites - how do you compare Pamela Prati - Google her, she is the standard of Latin beauty - with, say, Liv Ullmann?). The Gay Games have no reason to exist. As a Catholic, I do not approve of homosexual practice, but far less do I approve of separatism and introversion.

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*is vastly amused*

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Date: 2005-05-13 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fpb.livejournal.com
By the way...you got anything to do with the great Jack Kirby?

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Date: 2005-05-13 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Twit. I didn't write it, [livejournal.com profile] fpb.

But on that subject, I do consider anti-gay activists nutjobs.

Icarus

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Date: 2005-05-13 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackie-brown.livejournal.com
There's this (http://www.kraftfoods.com/main.aspx?m=contact_us/cu_form1) contact form too, for anyone who can't call. I write that nice Mr CEO an email telling him how great I think their sponsorship is. Thanks for alerting us :-)

Date: 2005-05-13 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Thank you. :)

Icarus

Date: 2005-05-13 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ifyouweremine.livejournal.com
Thank you! I called as soon as I saw your post, and I'll be posting this on my own lj.

<3333333333,
Miranda

Date: 2005-05-13 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Bless you, my child.

Seriously, I hate it when my queer friends get bullied.

Icarus

Date: 2005-05-13 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skuf.livejournal.com
Tsk, [livejournal.com profile] icarusancalion - always with the controversial posts! I mean, where do Gay People get off on thinking they have a right to their own Games???


…That's me being sarcastic/flabbergasted (over fpb), in case it's not obvious.


Hope you all get some nice calls in :o)

Date: 2005-05-13 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
I mean, just what do people think I am? A slash writer?!

Icarus

Date: 2005-05-13 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wikdsushi.livejournal.com
You know, I'd comment on yon fellow's thread, but I think I'd rather point and laugh at him and his sense of disrespect instead.

Date: 2005-05-13 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Note:

What you are saying is that I am the voice of hate here. Now, have a look at Icarusancalion's reactions and mine (I have to write this quick before she bans me) and work out which of us is using his reason and which is a prey to uncontrolled and destructive emotion.

*snerk* Got any guesses that this person has done this before? [livejournal.com profile] fpb automatically assumed I'd react with "uncontrolled emotion" and that I would ban him/her.

That's the gig, isn't it? Try to provoke a response? *shakes head*

Icarus

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Date: 2005-05-13 11:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] dustandroses.livejournal.com
Thanks for posting this - I'm putting it up in my journal, now. Sorry you had to deal with a troll, but thanks for putting her in her place!

Date: 2005-05-14 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Thanks. As I said to Lillian above, this isn't random trolling. [livejournal.com profile] fpb said that she had "strong" opinions when she friended me. At the time I said that was fine, so long as the discussion remained cordial. She wasn't able to be cordial to [livejournal.com profile] ifyouweremine, so had to stop. Immediately.

I consider myself the host here, and won't allow my guests to be harrassed.

Icarus

Date: 2005-05-14 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maegunnbatt.livejournal.com
Thanks for this! I have passed word along to all of my activist friends. Here's to a good weekend!

Date: 2005-05-14 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Fabulous job! Thank you.

Icarus

Date: 2005-05-14 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anevilweasel.livejournal.com
Went ahead and emailed Kraft foods. I think it's interesting that they say a private organization that is open and welcoming shouldn't exist but that their private organizations should exist and be allowed to discriminate in hiring while still getting federal funding. Hypocrisy in Action.

Date: 2005-05-14 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
*confused* I have no idea what you're talking about. What hiring policies? Kraft is a private corporaton and doesn't receive public funding that I know of. This is about their support of the Gay Games.

Icarus


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Date: 2005-05-14 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lherelenfeline.livejournal.com
Called them, and surprise of all surprises, got a person who actually asked me what i wanted to be called , sir or mam ( which for a mid transition tanny is WHOA! good).

Date: 2005-05-14 05:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
O cool! Are you pre or post-op? WG and I know quite a few people in that world, though his 'femme' side is strictly private.

Icarus

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Date: 2005-05-14 01:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancing-moon.livejournal.com
Meh. Separatist would be to forbid gay people from entering the "normal" olympics and vs for straights in the gay olympics.

I hate sports but I don't see why you can't have more fun days to celebrate and have fun on?

Anyway, I think the Kraft thing is good, as I've read on several other posts, the poor phone people have been getting abuse all day long >.<
But someone also pointed out that one of the big tobacco companies have large stock in Kraft, soooo not everyone may want to support them wholeheartedly =) Though it's one thing to buy their food, another to call and hopefully cheer someone up

Date: 2005-05-14 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Kraft was bought by Phillip Morris a long time ago, but it does no harm to call and support their helping the Gay Games. The people at Kraft don't have this handy banning feature we've got on LJ.

Thanks for your help, by the way. I finally gave [livejournal.com profile] fpb a few more warnings about his behaviour, then looked it up in the FAQ last night.

Icarus

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