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[livejournal.com profile] wildernessguru and I are watching our first Stargate: Atlantis episode.

So, yes, I can see the slash. There are two likeable characters: McKay and Shep.

As for the rest of the show...

1) dry and obvious dialogue
2) plots that are sci-fi retreads except with dull pacing
3) crappy costumes and props (particularly the arm-patches... my girl scout uniform had better quality)
4) cheap and silly-looking special effects (this one is just a bubble machine where they've applied a blue filter -- I could do that in my living room)
5) clueless and slightly phony acting (the actors stop acting once they've delivered their line while still on camera)
6) cardboard sets, with no detail or effort (look at that background, there's no electrical wiring, no switches, no boards, no dials -- it's just a LiteBrite set)
7) terrible staging (people are upstaging each other, the camera angles are awkward and amateurish ... MutantX has better staging than this)
8) mediocre soap opera quality cinematography (and the only cool shot is shown with the opening credits)

... what's not to love?

It's like Stargate only with no budget to spend on costumes, props, writers, directors, cinematographers, sets, or actors.

Date: 2005-10-09 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raveninthewind.livejournal.com
Stay with it. The slashiness is there throughout, and not just between John and Rodney.

I still think the wraith are uber cheesy, but after almost 1.5 seasons, I have sort of a fannish fondness for them. That's promoted by the fact that I think the same 4-5 actors play all the wraith (one guys specializes in the females). They're our guys wearing dorky, homemade-looking costumes. *g*

I have to say that while I enjoy SG-1 thoroughly, my fannish squee is pretty much all for SGA.

Date: 2005-10-09 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
I still think the wraith are uber cheesy, but after almost 1.5 seasons, I have sort of a fannish fondness for them.

Everything about this show is cheesy, up to and including the acting. There is a cool shot of the Atlantis set that isn't cheesy. That's about it.

I have to say that while I enjoy SG-1 thoroughly, my fannish squee is pretty much all for SGA.

I don't see why. I'll probably still watch the show from time to time since it's on after SG-1, but it is a cheap knock-off from the original.

Icarus

Date: 2005-10-09 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raveninthewind.livejournal.com
I don't see why.

I'm fannish about SGA when I am not about SG-1 because I don't ship any of the pairings in SG-1. (Sure, I've read and enjoyed J/D slash and Jack/Teal'c and Daniel/Jonas.) It's a mamtter of preference. I don't generally get fannish about a show unless there's slash I;m interested.

Ex. I watch Numb3rs, CSI, and SG-1 regularly, but don't feel much need to seek out fanfic or chat about them to fandom

Personally, I fond both shows to be equally cheesy SF and only watch because I like the characters. Yes, the SG-1 sets and special FX cost more. But that means nothing. Both have bad science and weird storylines. I can't stand that irritating "Ori are so powerful" arc that's playing on SG-1 now.


Date: 2005-10-10 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Ori? *blinks*

I'm in a time warp as far as SG-1 is concerned. I mostly watch the DVDs, replaying the shows I love from season 1-5. The most recent shows I've seen are season 7 -- though I should have season 8 sometime this week. Yep. I'm that far behind.

I said somewhere in this thread that I think SG-1 jumped the shark somewhere in season 7. I'm not against SGA and Tafkar's explanation for the poor production values makes sense to me, giving me some hope that the show will improve (the same timewarp applies to SGA -- I'm watching season one on Fox).

But I enjoyed SG-1 long before I'd even heard of slash, so the slashy content doesn't have any bearing on what I look for in a show. Slashiness is just a bonus. ;)

I see what you mean though. I enjoyed the show but I wasn't a fan per se until I saw the slashy potential of Jack/Daniel.

Icarus

Date: 2005-10-10 04:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raveninthewind.livejournal.com
Well, in general I like SF, so I watched SG-1 from season 2. I even bought the DVD sets of 1-7. But...I'm not blind to its flaws. I do think of it as genre television, with occasional outstanding episodes but overall not a whole lot better than Trek was.

I see slashiness as a bonus, too, actually, not a necessity.

About it jumping the shark in S7--I wouldn't disagree. I might even place that event a bit earlier... *g*

But I do like the characters--Jack is up there with my all-time favorite characters. I liked early Daniel, but not so much the current G.I. Joe!Daniel.

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