Johnny Cash: the implications just hit me.

[icarus]

I really need a Sheppard icon. Of course, then I realize, oh well, I'm so lazy about icons I'd probably never use it.

I watched Walk The Line this week, but the implications of Sheppard having a Johnny Cash poster on his wall just hit me. Johnny Cash was in the Air Force. He also hated the Air Force, comparing it to doing time in Folsom Prison.

And Sheppard has a Cash poster on his wall. Brought it with him to Atlantis.

Wow. There's a statement.

John Sheppard was just marking time in Antarctica, waiting to get out of the military. No wonder he didn't want to go to the Pegasus Galaxy. It meant an indefinite stay in the Air Force.

Wow.

Comments

[wicked-socks.livejournal.com]

huh, that is really fascinating. I haven't seen Walk the Line, nor do I know anything about Cash, but I really really love this line of thought. It just *fits* so well. I mean, damn.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

No wonder he was still flipping coins. *Still goggle-eyed*

[mecurtin.livejournal.com]

Wow. *Good* catch. Have you seen the Sheppard vid to Cash's "The Mercy Seat"? It's probably by lim . . .

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Ooo! I have to check that out.

[mecurtin.livejournal.com]

The actual title is I Am/Lamb (http://sublim.imeem.com/video/lJgJhwlK/i_amlamb/).

[01100100.livejournal.com]

It's more interesting because I read JF is a Cash fan and the poster was his idea. I'd love to find out what his reasoning was, knowing what he must know as a Cash fan. Very cool implication though.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

It's more interesting because I read JF is a Cash fan and the poster was his idea.

Oh, wow, this lends a lot of credibility to millefiori theory that Joe's working with his own internal backstory. He is a writer, no doubt he can't resist.

Icarus

[01100100.livejournal.com]

I think JF's story is that John joined the Air Force for his father, whom he ended up disappointing anyway. Maybe flying is like the only we he can escape without running, so he loves it and yes, hates the Air Force, because it's just like dad.

Okay, that's how I see John, but I could be right *g*

For all we know, under his wristband it says 'I h8 dad' ;-)

[teaphile.livejournal.com]

That certainly meshes with my reading of his character. Interesting.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Somebody has to write a fanfic including this.

Icarus

[millefiori.livejournal.com]

I really need to see that movie!

I have a (possibly crazy) theory that JF has created a very detailed background/history/set of motivations for John Sheppard that may or may not be a deliberate subversion of what TPTB were attempting to create with the character. (I think they were going for someone more straight-up heroic and JF decided that would be boring beyond belief, to play if not to watch.)

[hack-benjamin22.livejournal.com]

Totally jumping in here, but I completely agree with you. GenericAmericanHero!John is a little dull, but WhackedOut!John is infinitely more fun. :)

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

I'm totally on board with this theory, and there's lots of evidence for it. In the commentary to "Rising" the producer (or director? I don't recall) mentions that he wasn't getting what Flanigan was doing with Sheppard until they added a sequence where he said "that sounds like it's all about me." He's definitely screwing with the cookie-cutter "hero" they tried to portray in "The Storm" and "The Eye," and that episode with the Wraith in season three.

Icarus

[apple-pi.livejournal.com]

Even in The Storm and The Eye, his cookie-cutter hero had a lot of... how shall I say it? Big freakin' sociopath tendencies. Which, of course, is GOLD for fanfic writers. But um. Hi! Just wanted to pop in and agree with you. :-)

[enname.livejournal.com]

Must see that movie. Must see all the movies I haven't seen in the last... million years. Must stop looking up kanji. Must also stop looking at caps of J. Sheppard and going 'oo.. I could draw that'. Must go and do my thesis. Must also stop using the word must and bugging you.

Interesting though, even if it was unintentional. *ponders*

*cracks whip*

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Stop looking up Kanji. Stop looking at screencaps. Work, now work! *crack!*

Interesting though, even if it was unintentional. *ponders*

Apparently the poster was Joe's idea, and he'd know how much Cash hated the Air Force. The plot thickens...

Icarus

[auburnnothenna.livejournal.com]

Makes me think of the old saw where the young guy gets in trouble and the judge offers him the choice of jail or joining the military...if something like that happened to John, it would sure explain a lot of his attitude. Fanon has him joining so he could fly, but I'd love to read something where he was forced to join and has resented it ever since. Just because he found out he loved to fly after he was in, doesn't mean he ever wanted to be Air Force. Maybe he chose the Air Force because it is the least gungho of the services. Maybe he has a sealed juvie record and that's why he never talks about his past - because he was a bad, bad boy. *blinks* I have too many things on my plate already, someone else write it, please?

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Ah, but he wouldn't be able to get into the service, even if the juvie record was sealed. The military has access to those, as do the police. I have a friend who back in the 80s tried to join and his record came back to bite him in the ass. Now you probably could, but it was tougher in the 80s. No war.

Icarus

Hmm.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Hmm. Perhaps he grew to hate the military once he was there. A lot of kids don't know what they're getting into. He tries to leave multiple times, but there's always some reason to stay just a little longer. But Antarctica was going to be it, damn it.

Icarus

[apple-pi.livejournal.com]

I'm all *hands* about this idea - VERY sneaky and excellent insight!

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Instead of "Death by Landscape" it would "Characterization by Props." :)

[mad_maudlin]

::is jumping headfirst into this fandom and thinks this is a v. good idea::

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Yay! And season two should be available on DVD soon! *welcomes you with open arms*

I can probably hook you up with some downloads if you're interested. Email me.

Icarus

[toft-froggy.livejournal.com]

Wow, that's really interesting. My fascination with Joe Flanigan's mind grows exponentially.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

My fascination with Joe Flanigan's mind grows exponentially.

Same here, now that you mention it. I think I'm headed for a crush.