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Alright, that does it. Keelywolfe, who is a wonderful author, has been blasted by someone, somewhere, who thinks she 'sucks.' No, not flamed. Artfully blasted, ripped apart, disembowled and left out for potion ingredients.

I believe it's because she's now reached 'Major FanFic Writer' status in a multitude of fandoms. All 'Major FanFic Writers' have to be blasted at one point or another, simply because the masses grow weary of praise heaped upon praise. I confess, I feel green-eyed towards epicycle and would love to blast her stories as retreads of every cliche in fandom, if a word of it were true, and if I weren't panting, frustrated, for the next chapter of 'Draco Veritas.' Bring on Rita Skeeter and the Qwik-Quotes Quill. Yes, I hate Draco/Harry. Yes, I despise cliffhangers posted at every god damned chapter. So what.

Likewise, someone less honest has gone after Keelywolfe. With a - dare I say it? - vengeance.

But judge for yourself (patience, she's a major Lord of the Rings writer):

Sweet Purity of Apples Merry/Pippin
This is a masterpiece of subtlety.

Indecencies of Youth Merry/Pippin
A surprisingly adult and naughty story, emotionally real.

The Art of Fucking Harry/Ron
This story got me into Harry Potter Slash. Favorite line: I wanted it to be special. God. If it got any more special it would probably kill me.

Bandage Aragorn/Legolas
Hot and male. This'll teach those who feminize their male characters a thing or two.

Cast your vote. Sucks? Or doesn't. I'm waiting to hear from you.

Date: 2003-03-07 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tabellae.livejournal.com
I love you. All right, I love Keelywolfe more, but you're a very close second.

Before you get startled over my sudden display of affection, let me just say thankyouthankyouthankyou for introducing me and some very wonderful Harry/Ron stories.

*runs off to read*

wringing hands about this response ...

Date: 2003-03-08 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinderblast.livejournal.com
has been blasted by someone, somewhere, who thinks she 'sucks.' No, not flamed. Artfully blasted, ripped apart, disembowled and left out for potion ingredients.

I'm not getting this --- are you being sarcastic about the use of the word sucks, or was it a demolition job? In which case, maybe we should read that, too.

At any rate, I'm not really the right person to respond, as I can't read fandoms if I either don't know or don't like the source material, and I despise LOTR (which is a trouble in the HP fandom, as everyone else seems to love it and constantly references it :().
Anyway, I read the only story in that batch that I could and found the Ron in that story to be really unconvincing, and the whole situation to be a little unbelievable. Not to be harsh, but that was my instant impression. She doesn't suck, though.

I've read her work in another fandom, though, and she was really popular and respected there. I haven't been there for a while, but if iirc I liked her work in that fandom.

Re: wringing hands about this response ...

Date: 2003-03-08 07:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Yeah, I would've linked to it if I knew where it was, but I don't. No sarcasm, it was a demolition job.

Just give 'Sweet Purity of Apples' a chance. Really. There's a reason why I listed her LOTR fiction first. I love the 'Art of Fucking' though, because it portrays Harry/Ron as 1)non-schmoopy, sickly-sweet and... 2)as much friends as they are in a sexual relationship. It's light-hearted, and basically takes the friendship and extends it. Which is hard to find. I also think it's sweetly hilarious. But not everyone agrees. Obviously.

Don't wring your hands. People like what they like.

~Icarus

Re: wringing hands about this response ...

Date: 2003-03-08 07:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinderblast.livejournal.com
It's just that I sort of haven't figured out whether or not it's bad form to criticise someone's work on-line where they might read it, and if I'm comfortable doing this and not in a more private context. It's something that i've been thinking about.

And I've tried to read other stories from other fandoms but, it just doesn't work. I don't get the references, and the material bores me. Plus, you have no idea how much I hate LOTR. The only ok thing I've seen related to it was that hilarious Snape/creature slash story by Vulgarweed that someone rec'd here a while back.

Date: 2003-03-08 08:06 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] isiscolo.livejournal.com
Like [livejournal.com profile] tinderblast, non-Potterverse stories leave me totally cold. But I thought the Harry/Ron was well crafted and cute, for PWP.

Re: wringing hands about this response ...

Date: 2003-03-08 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
LOL! Then I will never make you read my Frodo/Sam slash. Though I look back on it and think... sheesh. Does one have a lifetime limit to the number of commas can use? If so, then I've used it up.

I think critiques buried in comment section is borderline, but on the front page is uncool and inconsiderate.

~Icarus

Date: 2003-03-08 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Alright, alright. *throws up hands*

I'm sure glad Keelywolfe hasn't read this.

~Icarus

Date: 2003-03-09 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinderblast.livejournal.com
Does one have a lifetime limit to the number of commas can use? If so, then I've used it up.

LOL.
That makes it sound interesting, though ...
anyway, Sam and Frodo are so obviosuly a couple, at least in the film. I started making up a list of gay archetypes in LOTR yesterday: Frodo, or Froda as she shall be known, is a proto-drag queen who is the most visible and stereotypically 'gay' memeber of the community and who draws the ire of the straight acting Log Cabin types for being too femme-y.
Sam is the repressed boy next door type who's secretly in love with his best friend (froda) but will never do anything about it.

There's also the bear, the mentor, the leather man, the straight-acting guy ... and so forth.

heh heh ...

brodie, who's glad that she and Isiscolo share an inability to read other types of fan fiction ...



Froda? No, that's Frolijah!

Date: 2003-03-09 09:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Elijah Wood's portrayal of Frodo is a real departure from Frodo in the books.

The Frodo Tolkien wrote is gently ironic, the sort of guy who sits back and listens to his friend's jibes -- and then delivers the big zinger of the night with a twinkle.

He's a very smart, observant bookish sort, more the type you'd see sipping brandy by the fire with a text in his lap than out on adventure. His usual way to stand up for himself among the hobbitfolk is a witty aside and otherwise stubbornly ignoring people's opinions.

He's somewhat upper-crusty, and underestimates Sam in the beginning through his own unintentionally condescending gentleman's snobbishness. He's also the first person to note there's a lot to Sam (Sam is not educated -he can hardly read- over ten years younger than Frodo and a servant, basically. Merry and Pippin are, like Frodo, from the well-to-do families of the Shire). Frodo and Sam become friends on the road.

The movies have taken out every scene where Frodo learned (and he has to learn) to be heroic. There's a scene where Frodo could save himself by putting on the ring, but he would have to abandon his friends to death, so he picks up a sword. They get saved by someone else, but it was still brave. And a major turning point.

Then though he makes the mistake of putting on the ring, he stands up to the Nazgul. He's totally over-matched, but he still tries.

Injured, he's put alone on a horse because it can travel faster that way (NO, ARWEN WAS NOT IN THAT SCENE). But the ring and the wound overcome him and he stops dead in his tracks in the middle of the stream, draws his sword, unable to go further but refusing to be taken without a fight. Elrond and Gandalf trigger the flood that saves him.

All of this character development has been cut, in favour of giving Arwen more of a role.

So Elijah's hobbled with a crippled Frodo. Still a good movie, it's just not Frodo. Peter Jackson is going to pay for crippling Frodo more and more as the movie goes on and that essential character development hasn't taken place. In the books, Frodo becomes so strong, and is broken by the ring. It's almost a phoenix from the ashes story. It's powerful. Peter Jackson's Frodo is a wimp. I mean, he's already broken.

The book Frodo/Sam is a much more interesting combination than the dull movie pair. There are definite socio-economic differences, an age gap, and a major difference in education. Frodo speaks and reads bits of several languages, Sam can barely read. Yet they become bonded under intense circumstances.

~Icarus

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