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Still sick, still spamming. *g*

Skating last week.


It's very different watching skating in person. The presence and charisma of these performers – and they are performers – really doesn't come across on TV.

Todd Elderidge is completely different in person. Frankly, I've always thought of him as a rather boring (and slightly geeky) skater. I figured he was popular largely because he was such a nice guy.

Nuh-uh.

In person, wow. His presence fills every square inch of that ice. There's almost a cube of presence. He's powerful and commanding. As Scott Hamilton said at the 2002 Olympics, laughing, "Todd Elderidge just owns that ice." I've met very few people like that, whose charisma fills up the space and you can't watch anything else at the same time you almost can't see them because there's just so much of them everywhere. My mother tells me Bette Midler's like that.

I learned how very hard these jumps are. Even the best skaters in the world miss jumps, and not just under the pressure of competition. If they're focused too much on the performance or make one slip – bump, down they go. A lot of the world class skaters missed a jump here and there.

And then there was Ilia Kulik. As light as a dragonfly in the air. And note perfect, every time.

I always loved the performance aspect of his skating. He's such an artist and obviously loves to choreograph unusual routines. But what I didn't know was that he could fly. You could see every turn of his jumps because he was up there so long, in slow motion. He made it look easy, effortless, like he belonged in the sky and was just coming down to visit us from time to time. He's Peter Pan without strings.

He did "Too Darned Hot" which is a cool routine but he seemed a little bored with it. So while it was perfect, it just didn't have fire. His later routine was less artful but featured more jumps and I had a feeling it was music he picked, because the music sucked but he was much present and obviously having more fun. He reminded me of a kid showing off his tricks on the swing set to a crowd.

Pelletier (of the Canadian Seles and Pelletier) is a joy to watch. He's so boyish and energetic, a really powerful and precise skater. He's solid. I always thought he seemed a little stiff on TV, but in person that stiffness comes across as a sportsman-like strength, like he's the kind of guy who'd be batting a soccer ball off his head in an alternate universe. Very different.

Alexei Yagudin is sex on ice.

He did a fast flamenco routine that, oh my god, I can't believe they had any ice left afterwards. He's steamy and hot, and he practically makes out with the audience. His presence fills the stadium and you kind of feel like you just cheated on your boyfriend (and don't really regret it) when he's done. *swoon* He has a rock star quality to him. Look out. This is the sort of skater who'll have groupies. (I'm now convinced that Plushenko's "Sex Bomb" routine is deliberately mocking his long-time rival, Yagudin. It's just too dead-on.)

I didn't pay as much attention to the women skaters as I did to the men (of course) but there was one woman who just… gave… so much of herself to the audience. Her performance was almost naked, though not in a literal sense, where you saw right into her, even if you didn't really know what you were seeing.

But this doesn't capture what Scott Hamilton created with Stars on Ice. It's worth seeing because Scott breaks up teams, mixing people together in new combinations, has Russians skating with Americans and rivals paired up. The point of Stars on Ice isn't cheesy (which I thought it would be). The point is for them to skate in a non-competitive environment, just for the joy of it. They add little insights into the lives of the skaters for the fans (and mock the assumption of the fans that they all live for skating and do nothing else ;), and little bits about their personalities (Jamie Seles was teased for being an endless talker), and how much the women love the costumes – and how much the men hate the costumes (Todd Elderidge said, "It's in my contract: No fuchsia, and no animal prints"). He still won the ugly costume award anyway, brown and orange, yikes, but when he skates who looks at the costume?

Before a baseball routine the boys talked about how they dreamed of being "a race car driver" and "a soccer player" and "a quarterback," though Yagudin said, "I just lived day by day, didn't think too much about the future." (Apparently he had it rough.) The guys said to Yagudin, "Awww…" shaking their heads.

Those of you who enjoyed "Cowboys on Ice" and the guys' virtual skating lap dance? They did it again in the "60s" number where everyone sat on picnic blankets and skated and jumped in twos and threes to a medley of Janis Joplin songs and "Let The Sun Shine" (you couldn't tell who was who through all the fringe and wiggery).

Interestingly, watching through binoculars was much like watching on TV. You saw the moves but you didn't get the impact of their personalities. So I definitely want to watch without the lens at the Nationals at least part of the time. But even from far away (I had sky high seats to this event, too) the stadium was small enough that I could still see everything. In Spokane the stadium shouldn't be much bigger.

Anyhow, [livejournal.com profile] wildernessguru's sister just called with news of his mom, and WG shouted "Two weeks!" and then "Well, how would they know? They're not doctors" and "I'd better get down there soon, then" and "Oh, god, poor thing." So, um, there's news about his mom.


ETA: Okay, the doctor still gives her six months or less. The hospice people who are now coming over say that based on her color and their experience, she could have as little as two weeks. Naturally, WG's sister is not recommending we fly down (Icarus quietly strangles her) since WG had such a wonderful Christmas visit with his mom. Screw that. His sister is the one who wants everything to be perfect and smiley and happy -- that's not our priority. We just want to see her.

ETA 2: Correcting bad guesses misspellings of names. Oops.

Date: 2007-01-22 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricandroid.livejournal.com
BIG BIG BIG BIG HUGS TO WG. Give him a massive hug from me and tell him if there is anything I can do (which is unlikely but still) just to drop me a line!

Skating sounds awesome. Seriously. So... more out of bounds?

Date: 2007-01-22 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Thank you, he appreciated it.

The skating was wonderful. And I'm working on Out Of Bounds, slowly but surely. It's a little like the work I did on SNAFU. I've been digging around, learning more about skating, trying to get a feel for John's skating style-to-be, learn what a competition-level program should include. This was eye-opening, to see how much the performer comes out on the ice. God, even though I'm sick I'm still going to the Nationals this coming weekend. Hopefully I'll be better by Friday.

Icarus

Date: 2007-01-22 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricandroid.livejournal.com
Be better - that is a command! I'm just remembering what a horror it was to beta SNAFU... because I kept on getting completely distracted by how GOOD it was!!!!

Date: 2007-01-22 12:24 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] florahart
Er. Monica Seles?

Is a tennis player? Maybe you mean Jamie Sale,I think. Pelletier's partner, with the whole medal ruckus and all.

/dork.

Date: 2007-01-22 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Oops! Let me fix that. *g*

Date: 2007-01-22 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filenotch.livejournal.com
We went from months to weeks when it hit the brain. Things can change fast.

Date: 2007-01-22 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
What's happening is that the doctor's giving her six months or less. The hospice people think it's going to be two weeks based on her coloring and their experience.

Icarus

Date: 2007-01-22 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filenotch.livejournal.com
At least they're saying it. Play music she likes, if she liked music. Read to her. Hearing is one of the last things she'll lose.

Yeah, I know. You're not there. He's not there. As much as it sucked, I know how lucky I was.

Date: 2007-01-22 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tekalynn.livejournal.com
The show sounds utterly fantastic! Thanks for the review.

Hugs to WG and to you. I'm so sorry.

Date: 2007-01-22 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
The truth is, we don't know.

The show sounds utterly fantastic! Thanks for the review.

It was wonderful, even better than I expected. If you ever have a chance, ignore the cheesy name "Stars on Ice" and go see it. It's professional yet surprisingly intimate, playful, and the skating/costumes/lighting is great.

Icarus

Date: 2007-01-22 12:49 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rikibeth.livejournal.com
Alexei Yagudin is pretty damned sexy even when he's just buying a sandwich! I met him briefly in person when he came into Wild Oats where I was working at the time. I babbled a little bit asking about the music he'd used for his performance of the time, but he said his coach found it on an unlabeled CD and he didn't know the artist.

But, yeah. HAWT.

Date: 2007-01-22 03:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Oh. Great story, and yeah, I believe it. He exudes slinky confident sexuality (and knows it).

Icarus

Date: 2007-01-22 12:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] venivincere
*hugs* you and WG. If there is anything I can do to help, please let me know. And the skating sounds divine. :-)

Date: 2007-01-22 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Thank you. He just went to sleep this afternoon, partially because he's sick, but also he's quietly depressed. *pets WG*

Date: 2007-01-22 01:19 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] fullygoldy.livejournal.com
Loved the description of Yagudin; it made DH laugh too.

I'm so sorry to hear WG's latest news. I'm sending you lots of serene, strong energy - you're both going to need it.

Date: 2007-01-22 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurrier.livejournal.com
I'm the world's worst commenter, but I've really enjoyed the spam of the past few days. Except for the news about WG's mother, of course. *hugs*

Date: 2007-01-22 06:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Oh comment plenty, and I've no doubt I'm muuuuch worse than you. I've commented this weekend on LJ whose owners probably didn't even know I read them. *g*

Icarus

Date: 2007-01-22 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonglow-girl.livejournal.com
Man, I would have killed to have seen that skating show...seriously, I love watching figure skating.

Hugs and cookies to WG and yourself + family for WG's mum.

Date: 2007-01-22 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
They hit a lot of major cities. It was called Smucker's "Stars On Ice" and they've a website. These tickets (unlike the, ouch, $90 tickets for the Nationals) were reasonable. The cheap seats went for $25.

Icarus

Date: 2007-01-22 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonglow-girl.livejournal.com
Alas, I'm a broke-ass student, and the two times my parents went to Stars on Ice, then never took ME!

Date: 2007-01-22 03:43 am (UTC)
ext_5417: (Default)
From: [identity profile] brashley46.livejournal.com
Be glad you didn't watch the Canadian nationals.

(As you may have noticed, I'm not in love with Emanuel Sandhu.)

Date: 2007-01-22 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Why not? What happened?

*very curious and out of the loop, big-time*

Date: 2007-01-22 03:54 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] brashley46.livejournal.com
AS is usual for the last 12 years he's been trying to replace Elvis Stojko, he started big and them blew it. Big-time. Also he's dressing wonkier than ever. See http://brashley46.livejournal.com/253392.html for details, including a link to a pic of his costume for the free skate.

Date: 2007-01-22 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Oh, I remember. He pushed the limits performance-wise with that Elvis routine in the mid-90s and some of the judges Did. Not. Like it. Personally, I think the judges were a bunch of stiffs.

*clicks your LJ*

Icarus

Date: 2007-01-22 03:44 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] brashley46.livejournal.com
Also please give WG a hug from me ... Mom's bee gone just over a month.

Date: 2007-01-22 05:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Thank you, I will. He crawled into bed after we heard the news and stayed there. :(

Date: 2007-01-22 04:12 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] aizjanika.livejournal.com
I'm so envious of your skating experience. It sounds lovely.

And then there was Ilia Kulik. As light as a dragonfly in the air. And note perfect, every time.

I just adore him. :-)

That's good to hear about Todd Elderidge, too. I've always liked him partly because he's from Cape Cod and that's where I used to live. :-)

{{{{hugs}}}} for you and WG about his mom... We just went through this all last year and it was hell. :-( It's still not that great... I hope he's able to get down there and see her again.

My MIL was given 3 months and then 6 months and then just a few weeks, and every time they were wrong, until they weren't. :-( It was all very confusing and upsetting, though.

Date: 2007-01-22 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
My MIL was given 3 months and then 6 months and then just a few weeks, and every time they were wrong, until they weren't. :-( It was all very confusing and upsetting, though.

This is very helpful information. I passed it along to WG.

I'm so envious of your skating experience. It sounds lovely.

I want to mail my mom tickets. She would absolutely love this. And now I'm looking forward to the Nationals.

Icarus

Date: 2007-01-22 10:32 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] aizjanika.livejournal.com
Ooh, I wasn't even thinking about being useful--just commiserating.

When my sister was sick and dying and when my father was in the hospital after a serious heart attack, both times we got conflicting information directly from the doctors and nurses. One person would tell us things were hopeful, the next would say things were dire. One minute we were jubilant and celebrating, the next we were worrying about living wills and wondering if we should be planning a funeral. Everyone means well, but a lot of the time, nobody is really sure.

In my MIL's case, we also had well-meaning family members calling us countless times with "The end is near. Come now!" Toolman rushed up there more times than we could afford, that's for sure.

I planned to go up with the kids, but my son got sick and we couldn't go. Relatives have told me this was best for them. I can't be sure. I'm glad I got to see my grandfather before he died (back in 1977), but, OTOH, my kids were close to their grandmother and saw her and talked to her often, and even my MIL was okay with it, so the fact that they didn't see her in the weeks before she died maybe isn't quite as important as it seems to me. It's really hard to say how this will affect them in the future.

In spite of everything, though, toolman is glad he was there when he was. He spent time with her when she was feeling okay and when she wasn't. He stayed with her at the end and took care of her (quite literally--the hospice people only came once or twice a day and at first it was just a visiting nurse once a day).

He wasn't with his father when his father died, and he has always regretted it, even though it wasn't his fault.

We were stationed in Alaska, and when we found out his father was sick, we planned a trip home. We were young, just had a baby, and have very little money. We bought supersaver plane tickets that could not be changed. We didn't know any better. When family said, "Come now. The end is near," they contacted the Red Cross and the Red Cross paid for a plane ticket for toolman only to go home. He stayed as long as he could, and he had some much-needed time with his father while he was still alive, but he couldn't afford to stay or go back for the "real" end. He's always, always felt so guilty about that. It's a terrible thing to live with that guilt, even after 20+ years. OTOH, all circumstances are different, and you can only do what you can do.

Date: 2007-01-22 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enname.livejournal.com
I am not going to comment on his sister because.. that is just unutterable. Two weeks, six months, a year - it is better to aim for the shorter one and have no regrets about it, than to play it cool and miss out on seeing her. Also wtf with a wonderful visit at Christmas? There is no way any visit now is going to be 'wonderful'. Not even near being about that anymore.

Oh wow, it makes me think back to going to iceskating things when I was little. Or even just watching the ballet every now and then when I am not so little. The difference between someone who can do jumps and those who just don't think about them is... astounding. Also not to mention seeing it in person (even at a distance) still gives such a greater feel of physicality than anything else. Glad you enjoyed it and got something out of it.. .. although now I want to go ice skating again.

no fuschia

Hee.

Date: 2007-01-22 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
My thoughts, if she could have heard them as I heard WG responding to this over the phone, would not be printable.

The difference between someone who can do jumps and those who just don't think about them is... astounding.

John (in Out Of Bounds) is one of those jumpers. That's the main reason he's at this level.

Also not to mention seeing it in person (even at a distance) still gives such a greater feel of physicality than anything else. Glad you enjoyed it and got something out of it.

The Nationals in Spokane are this weekend. I am much more pumped about it than I was over Christmas. It's not gonna matter that my tickets are miles away, not with performers like that. Wow.

I'm building up my base of info for the skating. This started as a crack!fic but now I have real skaters reading.

Icarus

Date: 2007-01-22 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goseaward.livejournal.com
My cousin to my aunt: "Mom, what would happen if Alexei Yagudin came to the door and said 'Come away with me?' "

My aunt, in earshot of her husband: "I'd say, 'Let me get my purse.' "

Date: 2007-01-22 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
LOL! And I don't blame her.

I saw a vid of him doing a quick change between two programs, yes, stripped down to his underwear (black speedo). He noticed the camera aimed at him as he was changed and wiggled his butt, grinning.

Hot. And oh he knows it.

Icarus

Date: 2007-01-22 05:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rike-tikki-tavi.livejournal.com
The skating sounds wonderful. It also sounds like you found a new fandom. ;-)

I'm so sorry to hear the news about WG's mom.
Screw his sister and get yourselfs down there as soon as you can. I wouldn't dismiss the hospice people just because they are no doctors. Cancer can move so damn fast and they are the ones that actually watch patients die from it day in and day out. I didn't see my mother before her death and I regret it for other than the normal reasons, but it still eats at me sometimes.

Date: 2007-01-22 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Oh, I've followed skating since 1980, when Scott Hamilton swept the men's. And this is how into the research I get when I feel like I don't know enough about a story I'm writing. You should have seen what I did for my Harry Potter fanfic SNAFU (http://www.icarus.slashcity.net/stories/snafu.html), which is the battle finale to the Beg Me For It series.

I needed to learn more about military tactics, so I interviewed three Vietnam vets and... well, here's the essay I wrote once I finished the research: How To Write A Battle Scene (http://www.livejournal.com/users/icarusancalion/149285.html). That lists all the research I did.

I still military tactics to this day. It got me interested.

Icarus

Date: 2007-01-22 05:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
This is good advice about WG's mom. As WG put it (paraphrased): "We really don't know."

Date: 2007-01-22 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perfica.livejournal.com
That is crappy, crappy news about WG's mum. Please tell him I'm thinking of him (and of you, with your cold!) and it's perfectly reasonable of him to not know whether he should go or stay or wait right now.

And of skating - I'm very glad you got to experience the scene live, even if you were studying them through binoculars. The atmosphere must have been fantastic.

Date: 2007-01-22 06:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Thank you, he's reading your comment as I type. He says, "She must be British." (Mum. :)

Love the icon, hee!

I'm very glad you got to experience the scene live, even if you were studying them through binoculars.

Actually, as it works out, the arena was tiny. So there really was no such thing as a terrible seat. Also, while we couldn't change sections, we could move to closer seats once the show began. :)

Icarus

Date: 2007-01-22 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perfica.livejournal.com
Ah, tell WG I'm Aussie. We speak a mixture of the Queen's English, use occasional American spelling (jail for gaol) and have a whole bunch of slang that would be meaningless to most of the world ;-)

I've upload a whole bunch of excellent icons in the last couple of days ::points up::

No, not worksafe.

Date: 2007-01-22 06:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Oh, ha! That's brilliant.

(I only have the one animated icon. But it has always pleased me.)

Re: No, not worksafe.

Date: 2007-01-22 06:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perfica.livejournal.com
There's a kind of mathematical beauty to that.

Date: 2007-01-22 07:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Hmm. I wonder if it's possible to make a small version without the frame. Just that little square of vid?

Date: 2007-01-22 07:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perfica.livejournal.com
I'm not sure. I don't know how to make icons or vids unfortunately. I credit all my icons so maybe the creator could do something for you?

Date: 2007-01-22 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enname.livejournal.com
(of the Oz variety too)

Lot of Scottish and Irish slang thrown in for good measure. :)

Date: 2007-01-22 01:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perfica.livejournal.com
And the European and Asian words (that mostly relate to food :-)

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