So, is this John? A five minute quiz. Lysacek & "How To Pick Music"

[icarus]

Sick of me yet? *g*

Stuffy head remains. Breathing is... *breathes in*... almost restored. Viral infection and bronchitis may have been averted in my case.

So. An Out Of Bounds Quiz. It takes five minutes to complete, respond in comments:

Is this John Sheppard?

Or do we need more fire? *eyebrows raise*


ETA: Another of the same skater

ETA 2: Okay, now this is very John. Same skater but not as good (probably injured), very focused on just landing the jumps

Comments

[perfica.livejournal.com]

I can see John in that skater - the same body type, the casual clothes, the way his movements are relaxed and free-flowing (especially his arm movements) but I can't see him dancing to that type of music or being that confident in his dancing ability. That guy had a loose-bodied charm that I don't think John's going to get no matter how hard he and Rodney try. It's something inbuilt and can't be taught.

Although he's well-aware of how pleasing his body and looks are to people. I just don't think it translates into moves.

[teaphile.livejournal.com]

That guy had a loose-bodied charm that I don't think John's going to get no matter how hard he and Rodney try.

Yes, that was exactly my thought. And I think John would be much stiffer in the arms; he doesn't gesture a lot when he speaks, and when he does it comes off as dorky and planned.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

*notes* He's the right body type. I won't answer with what I think yet, not until I hear more. *cheeky grin*

(See? I can speak Aussie, too!)

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

*skritch, skritch, on the notepad* *murmurs like a shrink* Uhm-hmm, yes.

Not a word from the Icarus yet. ;)

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Oh. I just noticed your icon. Wow. Who drew that?

[perfica.livejournal.com]

It's an icon of a cap and nomadicwriter came up with a new technique she's calling 'the scribble effect.' I've got one for the two SGA boys as well as Jack and Daniel.

Are you still looking for song ideas for John? Do they need to be classical or a certain length? Because I've got some ideas of 'country-type' songs that have great lyrics.

[rike-tikki-tavi.livejournal.com]

You think that guy needs more fire?!?

First part I can't see mostly because of the music. Though I liked the part where he's sliding on his knees. *pictures John in that pose* Mmmmm.... Sorry, where was I?

Get Rhythm might actually work after lots and lots more work with Rodney. The Elvis piece should appeal to John the speed fiend, but god, that Lycacek guy is light years ahead of him. As perfica said, it takes lots of confidence to do a piece like that plus that guy's not skating, he's dancing on ice. Not getting that is exactly John's problem.

Actually I thought, if Rodney had managed to keep up with the jumps and kept competing, he might have one day developed a point of view, where he takes skating serious but not to serious and has enough of a sense of humor about it, to do something like that.

Just for you.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

*takes notes*

Actually, I'm letting you guys in on the research I've been doing on Out Of Bounds all along. I've been doing stuff like this pretty much every week, sometimes every day, for months. Downloading skating vids. Watching different skating moods and moves and styles. Looking for skaters like my boys. Picking out and editing (oh my god, editing) music.

where he takes skating serious but not to serious and has enough of a sense of humor about it, to do something like that.

Oooooh. You don't know Rodney's skating style. I'll find a vid of Bowman that's close, but for now I'll give you a peek ahead in the story.

*

Radek had found that if he watched the figure skaters long enough, friends and "interested parties" would soon filter away, bored. It would be only a matter of time before Radek could easily give them the slip. He checked his watch: 5:30am. He and Rodney would be leaving for Amsterdam in a few hours. He leaned his chin on folded arms on the hard railing and watched Rodney from a dozen rows up in the stands. Though he would never tell Rodney that he did this, or else he would have too many questions about what he thought, was this good, was that good.

Rodney looked different skating. Strong. Radek couldn't tell if he was better than his Soviet competition, but he was definitely good, moving smoothly from one element to another, landing solidly.

He could see why Rodney was a star.

Radek did not like figure skating in his homeland. They were ballerinas on ice skates, their chins in the air, so serious. But Rodney, now, he made it look like fun.

His gestures were too exaggerated, almost funny, like he was teasing the other skaters. Or maybe even mocking figure skating itself. He skated a broad circle, one leg carving the ice, the other bent, an arm flung out dramatically as if greeting the sky. Radek snickered.

The music was suddenly cut off. "Now Rodney…."

Rodney's coach was a big man, with rounded shoulders and wispy white hair, soft-voiced. And slightly shaky today. Radek burrowed his chin into his hands, leaning forward to listen.

"You have to give it your all. I want everything you have. These are the best of the best and you've only one shot at this. This isn't the Worlds. There is no next year."

"Yes, yes," Rodney interrupted impatiently with a gesture like he was brushing away a fly.

But the man continued as relentless as a steamroller, clearly used to Rodney. "Four years from now who knows what you'll be doing -- or if I'll be your coach, or even in this world."

"Relax, Marc," Rodney laughed it off. "You're not planning on shuffling off this mortal coil today are you? This week? It'll be fine."

"Everything you've got, Rodney," he said in a gruff, strangled warning tone, wagging a finger. "If you have it, I want to see it."

A frown dented Radek's brow. His tucked in his chin as he drew away from his arms on the railing. The folding seat clicked a little as he straightened. It was not Radek's place to question, especially with a sport that he did not know as he knew ski jumping -- though he had never noticed that Rodney held back in anything. It was not Rodney's way. If anything Rodney went too far, risked too much.

But about one thing Radek was absolutely certain: Rodney should not be needing to reassure his own coach. That he had never seen. Had the man not been to the Olympics before?

Obviously, no. Radek shook his head as he pushed away from the railing. He would have just enough time to take a shower before he left for the train to Amsterdam. He should be able to beat Rodney to the station in Munich, in fact. He made his way up the stairs to the back of the arena.

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[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

*gives in*

Yeah. And his jumps are too loose, spins too slow. Not sharp enough. He's good at what John's not good at, and he's not good at what John's good at.

Or something like that.

He's more boyish; John's more fierce. But he's closer than anything else I've found.

Here's another of Evan Lycacek, more formal program (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHv4J90-DRU&mode=related&search=).

Icarus

[perfica.livejournal.com]

::is a filthy encourager::

http://perfica.livejournal.com/7922.html#cutid1

Re: Just for you.

[teaphile.livejournal.com]

Oh, god. It's the Canadian Olympic Figure Skater Curse, isn't it? They have so much damn fun in any other context, but once they get to the Olympics they freeze up and fall over.

[rike-tikki-tavi.livejournal.com]

Here's another of Evan Lycacek, more formal program.

Yessssss, that one.

Maybe Rodney should try to get John to move to music off the ice before they try it on the ice. Or did he do that already. It's been so long since I read the whole story and I have a test today so I need to do some last minute cramming instead of rereading. Woe

Re: Just for you.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Here's a little of Rodney's amusig/showy style of skating:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9R1oF5bhP4

Complete with fall. *g*

[starrylizard.livejournal.com]

Answer: YES

That is awesome! His jumps are like no effort at all and he's all loose limbs. SO like John in your fic!

I only watched the first one, because my dl limit suffers when I play with youtube. It's addictive! :P

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Ah, you're getting ahead just one scene in the story. Though not exactly that, no. /vagueness

[rike-tikki-tavi.livejournal.com]

And my mind goes straight to the smutty place. ;)

Re: Just for you.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Hmm. Of course, Rondney's always been more confident than Bowman, completes gestures. More like later Bowman but I can't find the piece I'm looking. It was on videotape, not online, unfortunately.

The almost comic manner is right, along with the flirting with the crowd. And the fall. That's even the same jump Rodney fell on in the Olympics: the triple Lutz.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Oh i'm so totally not answering that. (Sorry, typing with kitty-on-chest. I;m smitten with my kitten.)

[enname.livejournal.com]

Cute, but a bit... perky for John? I'd say more fire, more into some of the music other than the last one. Or something. It is nearly midnight, I am seeing things. Sparkles. :P

Hmm, liked the Bowman one and yeah. I'd hope that Rodney was a little more technically profficient to go along with the show.

Glad you are feeling better. How is WG?

[enname.livejournal.com]

*de clings koala-cat-thing and heads for shower*

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Here's another one. John could never pull off this opening move, but 4:11 in -- that's him.

Lycacek - Carmen.

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMY4S2SCtWw&mode=related&search=)

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Oh. Make that exactly 4 minutes in. What his face.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Er. I mean, watch his face, of course.

Hmm. Maybe more like 3:58, but who's counting? :D

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Check this one out. Same skater, different program.

John could never pull off that opening balletic move, and Lycacek is struggling more with his jumps than John usually does.

But roll it forward to 3:56 seconds in. Now that's John.

Lycacek - Carmen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMY4S2SCtWw&mode=related&search=)

Icarus

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

You could always leave the koala-cat-thing in cling position and take the shower as is, see what happens. *devilish grin*