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Someone asked me the other night if it was worth getting involved in the SGA fandom given the recent wankiness. She's a good writer, with a feel for dialogue and a playful sense of humor. I'd love to see her take a crack at John/Rodney. We talked for a while and it got me thinking.

The Utility of Fandom, or What Have You Done For Me Lately?

Ultimately, what matters in fandom is what you produce. What you give to the fandom.

If you generously write stories for people to read, run archives to make the fics available, go through the effort of combing through and recommending good stories, beta-read stories, or run challenges and communities and newsletters -- what you've done for others is what will matter. That dedication and sincere effort.

Challenge communities: There may be squawks of complaint over how a challenge is handled. But ultimately, the person who ran the challenge made dozens or even hundreds of stories available.

Writers and Betas: There may be people who get upset about this or that aspect of a story. But eventually, the smoke clears, and the story (or stories) remain. And people enjoy them. Months down the line no one cares about the wank. Happens all the time.

Reccers: I've yet to hear of a wank surrounding a rec-list (if you want to participate wank-free, you may have just found your niche). But if there ever were one, personally, I only remember gratitude for reliably good story recs.

Newsletters and Archivists: Someone might complain about how a newsletter is run, or about an archive's policies. But in the long run, they're both darned useful, and that effort (and money) has made stories more readily available.

I don't say the trite, "this too shall pass." What I mean to say is that I've noticed those who complain very often produce nothing for the rest of us. There is nothing tangible, no stories, no community, no archives, nothing for us to enjoy or participate in (unless you like schadenfreude).

For those who do the work -- keep writing the stories. Run your communities, archives, and rec-lists. You're the ones doing something for the fans. Believe me, the readers know who's done something for them lately. [livejournal.com profile] ltlj? Has given us a lot of great stories.

For those who want change: add to the fandom. The field is wide open. There are no start-up costs, no barriers, anyone can write anything. Start a community. Begin a challenge to promote the kinds of stories you want to see. There are plenty of successful politically motivated fanfic communities. Put your webspace to use and create an archive; eFiction is easy to install. If not, prepare to be disappointed and for your words to be like dust.

The equation is simple. The fanfiction community runs on, shock of shocks, fanfiction.

Even this essay. Pfft. It'll be gone in a day or two. Since I'm a fanfic writer, I'd better get back to work on that John/Lorne fic.

Date: 2007-04-03 12:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ella-bane.livejournal.com
Wonderfully said. :) It really is all about the stories.

Date: 2007-04-04 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
The stories are our substance in this virtual space.

We invest them with a lot of meaning that has more to do with us than the stories, and more to do with the time and context than just what's in the fics. But the stories -- the actual texts -- are our architecture. When we move on to other fandoms, they remain like the Roman Colesium.

Date: 2007-04-03 03:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amalthia
lol, loved what you had to say here and I agree. Also I loved the title of this essay. :)

Date: 2007-04-04 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Thank you. And I now have Janet Jackson's song running through my mind.

Date: 2007-04-03 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lttledvl.livejournal.com
Seconded!

Date: 2007-04-04 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Thanks you. Of course, I could have also summed it up with my first thought when I read those comments: "They should write their own damned stories."

Date: 2007-04-03 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torakowalski.livejournal.com
I really, really like what you have to say here.

Date: 2007-04-04 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Good, I'm glad to hear that. Fundamentally, the point is these fics.

It's really pointless to tear down this or that story because one doesn't like it. For one thing, one's comments go by the wayside while the fic remains, stable and secure.

If one wants change, one has to build something. I wanted to see Percy Weasley get more attention in the Harry Potter fandom. Did I whine about Draco Malfoy stories, attack stories where Percy was portrayed in a harsh light? No. That's childish. I started a Percy Fic-A-Thon. I wrote about twenty Percy Weasley stories (in various pairings). I played Percy in an RPG. And I created Percy archive.

It worked. By the time I was done there were about a hundred more Percy stories out there and there was a shift in how a lot of writers used him in their stories.

Icarus

Date: 2007-04-04 01:20 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mf_luder_xf
You made my day. First, you make several good points (I ignore the wank because it drives me insane), and then...you say you're writing John/Lorne. Oh, yes, made my day, indeed. :-D

Date: 2007-04-04 08:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
It's at the beta's. 20,000 words. And being posted most likely this week.

Icarus

Date: 2007-04-04 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raveninthewind.livejournal.com
Wank about recs isn't entirely unknown, but it's pretty rare...

Date: 2007-04-11 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Wow. I have a hard time imagining how a rec could cause a stir.

it has been known to get ugly

Date: 2007-04-11 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raveninthewind.livejournal.com
People who complain about bias (recs for friends, more recs for BNFs whether the story merits it, newbies not getting read, and the biggie: recs with caveats). A while back there was some SGA wank about recs that were "guilty pleasures"--some people took issue with being labeled that, and I think an author even took down the story in question for a while and then f-locked. Feelings can get hurt. Think of the cuttingboard wank--that's not exactly about recs, rather con-crit, and if a rec is in depth and mentions flaws, it can cause a stir.

In general, I don't rec stories I can't recommend wholeheartedly. My caveats are more genre type stuff, such as "lots of h/c," or for the themes or whether it;s dark or not. But even though I am careful, I don thnk I have occasionally offended. Not my intention to possibly discourage the source, but the recs are for myreaders as well as myself, to mark the stories I will want to re-read.

Date: 2007-04-10 07:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nicocoer.livejournal.com
Very accurate. :)

Date: 2007-04-10 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Hi! You're turning up a lot today.

Date: 2007-04-10 08:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nicocoer.livejournal.com
Yep. I've been away from the 'nets for about two weeks ish - or at least, away from live journal- and I'm catching up. SO much stuff has happened!!! One of my friends is back in the hospital for Anorexia (saw it coming, but you know) and me oh my!!!

Okay, I'm just silly at the moment. :)

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