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[icarus]

Oh wow. BBC News: Gay marriage is about to be legal in the UK.

Thank you to tboy for the heads up.

No time to write as I'm supposed to be doing homework instead of doing what I'm actually doing, which is reading Stargate Atlantis fic, so I'll just repost my celebratory SG-1 fic from when Canada legalized gay marriage (though it had far more implications for SGA than SG-1, and Harry Potter is more effected by this law than SG-1, but anyway)...

Fools Can Dream. PG-13. Jack/Daniel.

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[fractalreality.livejournal.com]

Technically, it isn't marriage.
To me it is, but the term is civil partnership - or some bollocks.

It's not quite complete acceptance, but it's a start.

First, equal benefits as hetero couples in the eyes of the law.

Next, WORLD DOMINATION!!!

MWUAUHAHAHAHA!

Ahem.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Well, many churches are way ahead and perform marriages (those that don't, don't). Civil partnership, recognized as a binding lifetime union under the law? The point of letting the state into your personal life--life insurance, inheritance, adoption maybe?--has been accomplished. Screw the terminology.

Icarus

[titti]

But we do have civil partnership in most states in the US. NYC was one of the first city to recognize them back with Giuliani back in 91 I think.

However, civil partnership don't give all the rights that a marriage gives.

[arclevel.livejournal.com]

But we do have civil partnership in most states in the US.

No, we don't. The majority of states don't have marriage, civil partnership or any other form of legal recognition of gay couples; a quick look showed that only seven do (CA, CT, HA, MA, ME, NJ, VT). I think about two-thirds of the states have laws specifically prohibiting gay marriage, and many of those use language that prevents civil partnerships and the like.

I live in Michigan, one of at least a dozen states with a constitutional provision forbidding gay marriage (and a swing state, too!). The amendment was worded to disallow anything "like marriage" or giving marriage benefits, which not only means no civil partnerships, but also meant that our Attorney General ordered all state-government branches and such to stop providing any benefits for the partners of their employees. I think that decision may have been overturned at some level, but I'm not sure.

[titti]

I don't know if it's only those seven. New York certainly does. Giuliani signed a civil register for the city only back when I still was in law school.

I don't mean to diminish what England is done, but I'm saying it's still not a marriage.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Now tell me about this. I know that my former company used to recognize civil partnerships (regardless of the genders involved) and so the healthcare covered all couples. But there was no registry or sign up that I ever heard of (beyond, say, Blue Cross/Blue Shield). Do they have a registry of sorts in NY?

Icarus

[titti]

It used to be only NYC, but now there is a civil registry for the entire state of New York. Each state has its own rule, so it's more likely that there is some civil registry in the blue states than in the red states.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Hmm. Given how very blue Washington is, I wonder why there isn't one here.

Oh. Right. Washington as a state is swung by the overwhelmingly blue (and overwhelmingly large) population of Seattle. The rest of the (sparsely populated farm country) is overwhelmingly red. This creates a bizarre schizophrenia between the state and federal levels -- our senators are democrats. Our state officials, apportioned by region, are republicans.

Yeah, we'll never get a registry here. Not unless Idaho gets one.

Icarus

[titti]

Yes, Washington is a very strange state when it comes of politics, but then NYC is Democrat, NYS is Republican, and we vote Democrats in federal election. It's all so very confusing.

[lizardspots.livejournal.com]

Whee! I read about the legalisation in the paper this morning. :D *joy*

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

*does Kermit-dance* Yay!

Icarus

[chinesefirebal.livejournal.com]

From what I have heard about this, it is marriage in all but name

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Ha. Just getting the notifications now.

Icarus

[lizardspots.livejournal.com]

I've given up chasing up the old notifications - I got *50* this morning. o.O