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I tried to read the the [livejournal.com profile] msscribe report, but somewhere around page two my head exploded.

The report's excellent, written in a journalistic style, carefully researched with disclaimers about unclear or missing information and almost completely without the usual "Rita Skeeter" glee you find in wankery and those who love it. charlottelennox has done a good job. The tone, at least as far as I've read, makes this much easier to stomach, despite the level of lurid detail.

That said, I couldn't stomach it. Lies, blatant manipulation, sock-puppetry of the worst kind where someone invents their own fans and their own pseudo-Christian troll. I fell for this, too, back when "The Black List" was published by [livejournal.com profile] fandom_scruples on LJ in 2004. What it says about slashers' biases (and fears?) towards Christians (the real Christians apparently told the troll to turn the other cheek and whatnot) is a little disturbing.

It only occurs to me ... and please forgive my deep and abiding cynicism that arises from having exposed one LJ financial scam, dealt with a harrassing flurry of sockpuppets attacking [livejournal.com profile] wildernessguru for criticizing certain pack designs -- (from a designer we know; the guy finally screwed up and dropped info he could only know in person via his sockpuppets, oopsie) -- and one rather persistant troll who hates my Buddhist stuff ... wouldn't it be something if this were all a final grab for attention by [livejournal.com profile] msscribe?

I doubt it, but this oldtimer leans on the sidelines and waits for the other shoe to drop. *Icarus chews a toothpick, narrow-eyed*



ETA: Chatting with [livejournal.com profile] sharp_tongue and [livejournal.com profile] orca_girl, apparently in chapter ten charlottelennox explains how she got involved in writing this account. I haven't been able to read that far. [livejournal.com profile] orca_girl points out it's the nature of this type of account for people to doubt it.

Yeah. I've run into that. People immediately want to distance themselves and show that "I'm an oldtimer" *cough* so "I'd never be fooled, nuh-uh, not me!" It's also a sign that the account is successful in making people alert -- too alert at first.

Date: 2006-06-21 02:24 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] femmequixotic
Well, write first. Then read. :D

I don't know if it's 100% true, but parts of it have without doubt been corraborated by [livejournal.com profile] heidi8 on her journal. And in the comments of the chapters a number of other people have come out with evidence that also corraborates elements of the story. And as for the so called stalker that was supposedly responsible for several of the sockpuppets according to msscribe, called the police department today and they never had it on file. Her call was replicated by [livejournal.com profile] oulangi on the other side with the same results. So I'm of the opinion that the most important elements of it are fairly rock-solid at this point.

It's really a story that once you get into the meat of it will just make you appalled that something like this could happen. But it doesn't surprise me that it happened in HP. Sigh. And it made me very, very aware of the history of a lot of the undercurrents that still exist in fandom today, whether or not people have stayed in the HP fandom.

And hon? You might need a case of Pepto-Bismol. :/ But it is a cautionary tale, and one I think needs to be kept in mind. I mean, this actually happened. *is staggered*

Date: 2006-06-21 02:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] femmequixotic
Oh, and that should be that [livejournal.com profile] angua9 called the police. Jeez. Stupid code. *conveniently ignores the idiot who inputted the stupid code...g*

Date: 2006-06-21 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
The deep history in the very first part is the only part (so far) that I knew absolutely nothing about. Other things I've caught a whiff of here and there, though never understood what was going on.

From what little I have stumbled across, well, it matches up.

Icarus

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