The Irony Knows No Bounds.

[icarus]

The Irony Knows No Bounds

You know, reading trinityofone's recent post, I'd like to say in a note of complete and utter irony, I have only one quote that I've borrowed:

In the Harry Potter AU, Beg Me For It, I refer to "Lucius and the Death Eaters" sounding like a rock band.

Where did it originate?

Cassandra Claire.

I thought that I'd read the Draco Trilogy after I wrote Beg Me For It. I wasn't a Harry/Draco or a Gen fan, preferring Harry/Ron and Harry/Snape. If it was Gen, I wasn't interested if it didn't have Snape. I know I finally read the DT somewhere in Jan-Mar of 2003 (after people complained about it... and I saw the quote "I dreamed I was a slice of lemon is a giant martini" on Fiction Alley and couldn't resist). I wrote Beg Me For It in Feb 2003.

Three years later I'm a wee bit fuzzy. *head scratching* Maybe the quote just stuck in my mind? Readers have pointed it out to me and while I've stuck with my original belief, I'm actually not quite sure any more.

At any rate, if there's anyone who won't complain, it's Cassandra Claire. *g*

Comments

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

No, seriously. Did she? *laughs*

I found white_serpent's account histrionic, so biased as to be untrustworthy (except for her side-by-side comparisons of quotes which were great), and just unreadable.

I'm tempted to do a post on "How To Write An Expose," with basic journalistic techniques, how to win over your audience, developing credibility.

Icarus

[florahart]

That's what I hear. The whole thing is before my time.

I skimmed a lot of the not-side-by-side, but did read most of the directly quote email exchanges in which there were conflicting stories. Absorbing for the scope of stupid, anyway.

[ncp.livejournal.com]

Apparently, Aja wrote her story BEFORE Cassie, but Cassie got mad because... Oh I don't know, something wanky.

I'm SO glad I'm not a BNF. An ego that massive would be a huge burden.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

But- but... I was a BNF. For at least a week or two.

Icarus

[ncp.livejournal.com]

I think if someone calls you a BNF and you say "WTF? I'm a BNF? Uh, OK I guess", you cannot truly call yourself a BNF.

A BNF is like Prefect Percy. You're more like Prefect Ron.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

*snort* That explains my benign neglect of Percyness (http://www.icarus.slashcity.net/percyness).

Icarus

[cheshyre]

IFF you want to read the gory details, here's Aja's take on it

She's since unlocked the fic in question if you want to compare with what she's accused of copying...

[shezan.livejournal.com]

It's excellent, and A Season in Hell was also excellent. Personally I'm glad there are two - more good stuff to read.

Yes, there's a common tone. That kind of present tense, anomic writing was done quite a bit at the time (I think of Zahra's fics, for instance) although rarely as well. Then people moved on. There are currents and trends in fanfic as in everything else. One year it's symbolism, the next it's magical realism.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

I was never a fan of A Season In Hell, though at the time it was a good anodyne to the sugar sweet fics that were available, if my understanding is correct. By the time I was in the HP fandom there was plenty of Snape-fic for that. After The Flood is my personal favorite.

Got another sock-puppet snipe-y comment.

Isn't the point of an expose to win the people on the middle ground to your side? I suspect half of Cassandra Claire's support comes from the opposition being so nasty to the very people they're trying to convince.

Icarus

[shezan.livejournal.com]

Oh, I agree, MUCH preferred ATF. (And I know Amsterdam, and it had that wonderful feeling of place without spinning out the tourist clichés, too.)

Got another sock-puppet snipe-y comment.

Wherewherewhere????

(I know, I'm BAD.)

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

I'll tell you in your LJ. I have a test to study for tomorrow, though I admit this whole battle was a pleasant way to vent a little spleen over the whole school-funding issue, I really don't need the distraction right now.

Icarus

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Oh, that's too funny. *reads*

Icarus

[novembersnow.livejournal.com]

I found white_serpent's account histrionic, so biased as to be untrustworthy (except for her side-by-side comparisons of quotes which were great), and just unreadable.

I felt exactly the same way. Most of it was dull, and where it wasn't dull, it made me roll my eyes, to the point where I told someone recently that the bad_penny saga made me feel more sympathetic toward Cassie, if that's who her opposition was.

But, yeah, the side-by-side stuff was fascinating, and quite educational.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Most of it was dull

Dry as dust. And framing the whole thing in the "how I figured it all out" is neither informative nor interesting.

it made me roll my eyes

My eyes rolled at the "I'm a romance novelist" then rolled again at the "I was looking for Sirus/Black, and I'd written one of the two stories out there." When we got to the whispering "here's how I cleverly figured it out," I sighed. The really bad stuff is later when she frames her excellent research with oh-so-not-insightful emotional reactions.

God, but I was furious-- and furious in a way that I can't even begin to explain. - white_serpent

That tells us... what, exactly? And there are statements that just... well, here's one:

I was no longer so generous.

That sounds like something my mother would say, and she's the poster child for bias and emo.

I've a mental list alternate people who style-wise could do a much better job with the saga, especially since most of the hard-core research is done.

Icarus