icarus: (Out Of Bounds 2)
icarusancalion ([personal profile] icarus) wrote2008-03-29 12:16 pm
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John's beater from Out Of Bounds. Joe Flanigan posed mostly nude?

WG and I have come to a truce on John's car in Out Of Bounds.

I thought I found John's car from Out Of Bounds.

The 1978 Chevy Caprice, which he bought in 1989, just after he graduated high school:


[livejournal.com profile] wildernessguru says, "No way does John drive that. No guy would drive that land yacht."

"Okay," I asked him, "So what does he drive?"

He suggested a Dodge Dart. I told him that John's car has to have a back seat, and the Dart's back seat is way too small. I pointed out that John has had this car forever. It spends most of the story in various states of disrepair. (Mostly the heat's broken. In Canada.) He said, "Whatever, no way would John drive that."

Sigh. It's not like John can afford a muscle car or anything sporty. I kept hunting.

After an evening spent cruising cars in the Lemon-ade Guide, I showed [livejournal.com profile] wildernessguru the following. WG's cool with the 1980 Chevy Caprice Classic although John's obviously wouldn't be black (his is burgundy) or in mint condition like this one:


"More of a beater," he said, but he agreed with this choice.

I said, "You mean like this?"


"Yeah," he said.

We'll not tell him that's another photo of the original car, or that the only difference between the first and second car was the model year. *snickers*

Did you know about Joe Flanigan posing mostly nude for About Face? This is the first I'd heard of the project.

He looks both vulnerable, uncomfortable, and intense. Off-balance. It's a very interesting photo for more reasons than the obvious.

[identity profile] droolfangrrl.livejournal.com 2008-03-29 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Who me, tell? Why never! I'm the soul of discretion.

And I see what you mean, i think?

p.s. where mah story womman???!!!

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2008-03-30 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
I'm re-reading the whole thing to get back into it. :)

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[identity profile] rikibeth.livejournal.com 2008-03-29 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
The Caprice reminds me of a... 1975? 1978? I think it was a '78 Ford LTD that a boy I knew had back in 1986. Even the FRONT seats were roomy in that one.

The boy I dated in 1987 had a '74 Dodge Shadow... kind of the sport model of the Dart. He had moved out of his parents' house that fall, so the size of the back seat was never an issue. I think it might have done for us, but not for a tall, bulky guy.

I'm amused.

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
Or two tall, bulky guys for that matter. :)

My mom had a 1983(?) Chevy Caprice, and it was a standard family sedan with a powerful enough engine that it could be souped up into a sportscar with a little effort. My stepdad had one in the 60s that had the engine blueprinted that he used for drag racing.

It was a tough car, reasonably reliable and easy to maintain, if "slushy" in the suspension, with lousy gas mileage (fortunately Out Of Bounds is set when gas was still $1.50 a gallon). I'm betting it was probably the family car given to John (okay, sold to him for tiny amount) after he graduated. He's kept it running since.

[identity profile] byandby.livejournal.com 2008-03-29 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that he does look off balance. He looks more uncomfortable than some of the other guys. But so many of them look vulnerable. I kinda want to give them all hugs.

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm thinking Russo must have waited, and waited, and waited, and waited before he snapped that phoauirho--damn, it's hard to type with the cat walking all over the keyboard. What does he want. He's been fed....

[identity profile] crownglass39.livejournal.com 2008-03-29 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
That is so totally John's car!

About JF's picture...what happened to his shoulders? It looks likes they've completely collapsed in the picture, doesn't it?

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't see a lot of body confidence in that photo.

Which I like about him.

[identity profile] rabidfan.livejournal.com 2008-03-29 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
The 80's versiion is pretty much a muscle car. It had a big engine and was awesome to drive. Lot's of power. John could never afford the gas.

JF has the worst posture. It is one of the things that makes me crazy about him portraying a military guy...my husband (and all my family, really) is military and all wail whenever JF is on screen, "No Lite Col. would STAND like that!!!! Where's his spine??" It's actually pretty funny to see them sputter when I say, "Yes, but isn't he pretty??" Good times.

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2008-03-29 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
The story is set in 1999, when gas was $1.50 a gallon.

[identity profile] rabidfan.livejournal.com 2008-03-29 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but salaries where just about that low too! My brother's first "real" job made him a whopping 2.45 per hour...better than my sister's first at 1.65 (tho that one was way before 1999)

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[identity profile] spock74.livejournal.com 2008-03-29 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Am I the only one who found that site a bit creepy? In a kind of little-boys-in-their-tighty-whities-in-an-old-calvin-klein-ad way? And I'm sure I know who most of those guys are, but I only recognized a few of them. I suppose that's a credit to the artist and the stripped-down appearance of all the subjects.

But Joe looked totally hot. And his hair deserves it's own photograph.

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2008-04-21 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm. It's strange ... the effect of having all those handsome men blur together into nonentities. I get a sense of the meaninglessness of beauty.

I'm sure it's unintended.

[identity profile] lexstar29.livejournal.com 2008-03-29 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I hadn't heard about the About Face project either. I agree it's an interesting photo. Raises all kinds of questions in it, which of course is the mark of a good photo but all the same. I agree that he looks very uncomfortable. He almost doesn't look like himself either in an odd way. Thanks for pointing it out.

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2008-03-29 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
The photographer seems to have stripped away Joe's surface attitudes and poses. We're left with something raw, and it's not about how beautiful he is, it's about... it seems to communicate his investment in other people finding him attractive (at least for this shoot). And that he's not sure how people will respond.

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[identity profile] monanotlisa.livejournal.com 2008-03-30 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
I never get the idea that he considers himself particularly beautiful--and oh, I've met a few good-looking guys who think they hung the moon, the stars, and the rest of the universe, appearance-wise.

(God, I love that shot. "Intense" is right.)

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[identity profile] auburnnothenna.livejournal.com 2008-03-30 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Why are black and white pictures so amazing?

But that picture, I've been looking and trying to articulate my response to it. Of course, he's a gorgeous man and it is an excellent picture, but it isn't the standard pretty shot, is it?

The words that came to mind first were intense, sad, vulnerable, and tired. Exposed. Almost desperate. And that was when it hit me, that picture is like a shot of a prisoner, stripped down, staring into the camera and trying convey a connection to whoever it will be sent to. It's like a proof of life and at the same time a display of power.
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[identity profile] monanotlisa.livejournal.com 2008-03-30 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Of course, he's a gorgeous man and it is an excellent picture, but it isn't the standard pretty shot, is it?

It's not, and I think it couldn't be because Joe isn't your standard pretty man--he has an odd face, in some ways, but there's something else, in the composition of his features, in the way he uses his face to express himself, that makes him extraordinary.

A prisoner. Hmm. That'd explain the...almost trapped look. I wonder, how this came to be? Through Russo, obviously, but why Joe Flanigan? I mean, we all know why; all of us discussing this see there's something amazing and compelling about him...but others, among so many more famous stars with, I guess, not that I care, "gorgeous" faces.

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[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2008-03-30 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. And not his power.

I wonder how the photographer got that. I think he waited and waited and waited before taking the photograph.

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[identity profile] sulien77.livejournal.com 2008-03-30 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for posting the link to the About Face project. Good lord, that man's eyes are mesmerizing. I just wish live journal allowed larger icons so that we could see them. (I snagged that photo too and I've a feeling we won't be the only ones.)
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[identity profile] spock74.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
I like your icon! If it were me, I might not use such a recognizably copyrighted image, though. LJ has been getting rather crabby about this in the macro communities. Just a thought.

That said, I really do like your icon! SUCH a good pic of him.

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[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2008-04-21 07:54 am (UTC)(link)
That's the one loss of a black and white photo. The color(s) of his eyes are even more mesmerizing.

[identity profile] miso-no-tsuki.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Please respect the power of the word."Did you know about Joe Flanigan posing mostly nude for About Face?"
I'm surprised that the About Face site hasn't gone down under the weight of rabid fangirls trying to see JF in teh altogether!!! Which he isn't1 *pouts*
But, the photographer has produced startling images. All the faces are sharply in focus, but the bodies are kinda receeding. I'm sure JF should be more hairy than that.His shoulders seem to slope very sharply. Has he been airbrushed? But the expression, now that's something else. Vulnerable. Hmm.
Thanks for posting!

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
But I said mostly. lol

[identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com 2008-04-21 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, hey, did you want notes on John's costume? Because I do have a costume (though it's not needed for the pic of you're looking for clean lines, and I have a feeling you should just go with what you're picturing and I'll shut up now, no, I'm not a bit excitied about Out Of Bounds art, why do you ask?).