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I have two favors to ask of you.

First: Vote.

Second: Post about the Livejournal representative election. Urge your friendslist to vote and then post about the vote.

If massive numbers of fandomers surge to vote, then we will have our pick of fandom candidates. Instead of being a race between an anti-fandom candidate, [livejournal.com profile] jameth and fandom candidate [livejournal.com profile] legomymalfoy, we can have a race between [livejournal.com profile] legomymalfoy and [livejournal.com profile] rm.

I know we can easily reach 14,000 fandomers. I've added up the f-lists of those who've posted about the vote already. And you don't have to wait. Because you can change your mind between now and Thursday.

The three top fandom candidates:

[livejournal.com profile] legomymalfoy
[livejournal.com profile] rm
[livejournal.com profile] vichan

As of this moment, the numbers are:

[livejournal.com profile] jameth - 2508 (17.8%)
[livejournal.com profile] legomymalfoy - 3785 (26.9%)
[livejournal.com profile] rm - 1522 (10.8%)
[livejournal.com profile] vichan - 707 (5.0%)

I've nothing against this guy personally, but I don't like his paranoid campaign and troll history.
[livejournal.com profile] jameth attacked fandom once he fell behind, accusing us of sockpuppeting with up to 200 puppets per fandomer (seriously?) all based on an "anonymous tip." (Other moments that smack of conspiracy theories include fears that LJ is locking in votes and [livejournal.com profile] jameth blaming [livejournal.com profile] legomymalfoy for a supporter being kicked off IRC chat by burr86. Let's not forget the backhanded pre-emptive swipes at all the candidates, with the caption "I don't think _my_ platform is going to change. Not sure about anyone else's, though." Not someone I would want to work with. For more paranoia: He now fears Legomymalfoy's ahead because the LJ support team doesn't like him.)

Longstanding fandomers like [livejournal.com profile] telesilla (whom you might remember from her reporting of strikethrough and FanLib) and [livejournal.com profile] caras_galadhon and others, remind us [livejournal.com profile] jameth is a known troll, while [livejournal.com profile] bethbethbeth points out the strongly anti-fandom attitude of his supporters, which he's made no effort to contradict.

But hey, let's plague an epileptic's journal with flashing icons!
So I guess it should come as no surprise that his supporters are deliberately posting flashing icons in the comments of an epileptic's journal. At least one other epileptic has been affected, so turn off graphics if you click to [livejournal.com profile] rydra_wong's journal. The [livejournal.com profile] bigdecision08 community which is run by three [livejournal.com profile] jameth supporters has posted about this, unfortunately directing [livejournal.com profile] jameth's supporters to her journal. I've asked [livejournal.com profile] jameth what, since he's seeking a leadership role and has been comfortable telling people to vote for him in all three categories, does he have to say about this? So far, although he's fine with directing people to vote for him and then null out in all categories, not a peep. To [livejournal.com profile] rydra_wong it's not his problem. Nice guy. ETA: I asked him about it and he replied "what post?" This guy's totally full of shit. He'd already replied to [livejournal.com profile] rydra_wong's post several times. He's attempting to run on his RL credentials, but I've learned in comments here that someone who's worked with him IRL "does not have complimentary things to say about his skills with dealing with people."

I've collected endorsements of [livejournal.com profile] legomymalfoy here.

I've collected endorsements of [livejournal.com profile] rm here.

We've got great candidates. The current second-place candidate is someone I don't want, I don't know about you. He is anti-fandom.
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Date: 2008-05-25 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] channonyarrow.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] mr_quackenbush has actually worked with [livejournal.com profile] jameth. Doesn't like him. Apparently he's an even bigger asshat in the meat world than he is online.

Because what we need is to continue to prove to the people who own the site we're trying to save is that we're all completely insane asshats who can't function appropriately in social and business situations! That'll get us, fandomers and non, listened to and heard.

Can I copypasta your statement about [livejournal.com profile] jameth? It might go a ways further on my flist than me saying "Yeah, I don't like the guy." I know he's got a rep, but dude, that's crap i didn't know about.

Date: 2008-05-25 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Absolutely. Go for it.

I think [livejournal.com profile] carad_galadhon is right (http://caras-galadhon.livejournal.com/375321.html). You might want to include her comments. We do not want him sitting across the table from one of the leaders of the Creative Commons movement.

Date: 2008-05-25 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Sorry about the typo: [livejournal.com profile] caras_galadhon that should be.

Date: 2008-05-25 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethbethbeth.livejournal.com
Just to say...while I absolutely don't want [livejournal.com profile] jameth to win (and will be posting an entry tonight adding to my reasons why I don't), I never actually called him a troll. Just for the record.

He could be one...but I've seen no evidence of actual trolling, and until I do, well, you know?

Date: 2008-05-25 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarka.livejournal.com
Thanks for these posts... this would have gone completely over my head if it wasn't for them.

Date: 2008-05-25 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Edited to read: "while <lj user="bethbethbeth" points out his strongly anti-fandom attitude."

Date: 2008-05-25 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethbethbeth.livejournal.com
Excellent. Thanks.

Date: 2008-05-25 10:51 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-05-25 11:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kennahijja.livejournal.com
Dunno... I looked at the 'posters' in the election thread, and jumped to the conclusion that anybody who lets this go on in their name = troll. Before even seeing yours and the other posts along those lines ;).

Date: 2008-05-25 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
He has been stumping actively before the election even opened. He has a campaign team. He has posters. He has a comm devoted to covering his campaign.

He's a thousand votes behind a fandom candidate. And fandom didn't even know there was an election until this weekend.

Date: 2008-05-26 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auntie-maim.livejournal.com
SSSSSSSMEEEEEEAAAAARRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, fandom. You never disappoint.

Date: 2008-05-26 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Were you ever under the illusion that I was for [livejournal.com profile] jameth?

Why would you support him? I talked to him. He's a total B.S. artist.

Date: 2008-05-26 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
You're welcome. :)

Date: 2008-05-26 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hildeaux.livejournal.com
Wow. Someone who is thinking logically! Thank you for your fealty.

Date: 2008-05-26 02:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hildeaux.livejournal.com
I think you mean COMEDY ARTIST.

Date: 2008-05-26 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
In it for the lulz?

Date: 2008-05-26 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hildeaux.livejournal.com
Why else?

Date: 2008-05-26 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Yes, I thought so. And a little ego-stroking on the side. And an opportunity to build his political resume.

I get the impression that it's more than the lulz. The lulz is just a campaign image. He's working too hard for it to be just about the lulz. But it's definitely for himself and not the LJ crowd.

Date: 2008-05-26 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Ah, Beth is an old friend of mine. And she's not exactly offering fealty to Jameth's political resume-building.

Date: 2008-05-26 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hildeaux.livejournal.com
Hahaha. I think you're reading a little too much into it. We do it because of the hilarious shit that goes down whenever the drama yacht sets sail. You really think we would be working this hard so we could go to sleep at night knowing we'd "won" an "election" on a website that most of the population hasn't even heard of? On the Internet? Really?

We do it because it's HILARIOUS. Well, I shouldn't speak for others. I know that that's why I do it.

People make it sound like livejournal is jameth's life or something. I think that could probably be said for some of the people on his flist, but jameth himself does indeed appear to have a life IRL. I met him just last night. He is tons of fun and a really nice guy!

Date: 2008-05-26 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hildeaux.livejournal.com
Resume-building. Ahahahahah. Who in their right mind would think that a poll on a website that most people have never heard of would be appropriate for a resume?

I taught myself to use Photoshop to make image macros, but I don't put "experience with Photoshop" on my resume.

Date: 2008-05-26 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auntie-maim.livejournal.com
I don't expect to you vote for him. I just think it's ridiculous to claim he's running a smear campaign while fandom is running a pretty aggressive smear campaign against him. I think that's the only reason this has turned so wanktastic. Fandom made it a personal attack against [livejournal.com profile] jameth and his Flist. Don't get me wrong, I understand that his/our side has said quite a few things that weren't the most positive, myself included. But your side isn't innocent either.

Don't vote for him, whatever. That's your prerogative. But there's no reason for personal attacks on any side of this thing.

Why would I support [livejournal.com profile] jameth? Honestly? Because he's fun. He doesn't take things too seriously. I honestly believe he cares. If he were elected to an advisory position, I think he would take his post seriously. He might not be involved in fandom, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't represent them fairly.



Date: 2008-05-26 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
He'd be working on the same board as Lawrence Lessig, author of Free Culture, and one of the pioneers of the Creative Commons movement. Didn't you know that?

Date: 2008-05-26 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
He's working too hard for that. There are some real tangible benefits to this position. I guess he's not talking about that.

Date: 2008-05-26 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hildeaux.livejournal.com
You're operating under the assumption that he will win. LJ Support/Abuse and god knows how many sockpuppets are making sure that that will be an unlikely outcome.
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