Church refuses to sign marriage licenses until gay marriage ban is lifted.

[icarus]

From kerrikins:

Ohio church refuses to sign marriage licenses until gay marriage ban is lifted.

They say it's a civil rights issue. Damned right it is.

Comments

[emella.livejournal.com]

Makes me proud to be from Ohio. :D

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Right on. :)

[monkey-junkey.livejournal.com]

Excellent way to make a stand!

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Yep. Clean and clear. Makes me want to film an ad, starring them, for the next Proposition 8: "We've been performing gay marriages for 20 years. It's time for the state to catch up."

[tigerlilly2063.livejournal.com]

Good to see that not everybody of the Church is a dick. Hopefully they will get people to finally think and be more open-minded.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Churches have been recognizing, supporting, and performing gay marriages for 20-30 years.

I'm sick of dicks prancing proclaiming that they represent all religion. They don't even represent all of their religion.

The fact of the matter is, Christian churches have performed gay marriages long before anyone even imagined legalizing them through the state.

[tigerlilly2063.livejournal.com]

Oh, okay. Then it never came across the right way to me.

And maybe I'm a little biased from our churches. Here in Germany you may get legally married when gay, but only via a civil ceremony, the church still refuses to do that. Though you need the civil one anyway, gay or not. But still...

[moojja.livejournal.com]

I actually like it that way. Not the part where churches refuse to perform gay marriages. But that all marriages have to have a civil ceremony. I'm all for separation of church and state.

[tigerlilly2063.livejournal.com]

Yeah, me too. That way you don't get confused about the authorities. And if you like to have a church ceremony, you can always get one additionally.

And yes, the separation of church and state is pretty much necessary. Especially within multi-cultural countries like yours or mine. If you have so many different kind of religions, you just can't involve them in politics.

[amanuensis1.livejournal.com]

Someone should start the Church of Not Everyone Is A Dick.

[tigerlilly2063.livejournal.com]

*rofl*

[lexstar29.livejournal.com]

Thanks for posting this link up. Hopefully more people and organisations will follow suit and take some action.

[ariadne83]

About damn time.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Churches have been performing gay marriages for 20-30 years. The civil law -- and more backward churches -- needs to catch up.

Feeling confilicted

[anarawells.livejournal.com]

Part of me wants to cheer for the activism for civil rights. However, the other part feels for those couples that have paid for the church and pastor only to have this come up. I don't know maybe a protest like this is what it takes to wake Americans up to the civil injustice of this matter (ban on gay marriage), but I don't think so. Some also might say that it is about time that heterosexual couples see/feel what gay couples deal with, but that is like protesting gay bashing by going and beating up a straight couple. Unlike the analogy previously given this form of protest may not physically hurt people, but it can cause emotional damage. That's just not anymore right then what is being done to gay couples across the nation. Let us try to find a better way...

Re: Feeling confilicted

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

They can still do the wedding. They just have to make a stop at the courthouse as well.

Re: Feeling confilicted

[anarawells.livejournal.com]

I do realize that, and my analogy is probably way harsh, but for some having their pastor sign their certificate is a big deal. It is sad that for some this will not be possible. Yes I do realize that this is an incredibly small subset that I am feeling bad for, and yes they can still marry unlike gay couples, but sometimes the little things (like having your clergy person sign your marriage certificate) means a lot. I just wish that there was a way to advocate without causing emotional distress. I know ... not really going to happen.

Re: Feeling confilicted

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Do people seriously care who signs their marriage certificate? That ranks right up there with getting the right color of limousine with me.

Re: Feeling confilicted

[anarawells.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I hear you it does seem silly, but feelings are often irrational.

Re: Feeling confilicted

[bruinsfan.livejournal.com]

I can see it being sentimentally important if you have a history with the clergyman in question. I was glad to have the minister I'd been listening to since chldhood perform my baptism and confirmation, and wish we'd had him officiate at my great aunt's funeral instead of our (then) current minister who cracked jokes graveside.

That said, given that gay couples don't have the easy option of finding another government to recognize their marriage the way straight couples affected by this can find another church or have a civil ceremony, my sympathy for their tragic plight is somewhat limited.

[thistlerose.livejournal.com]

Oh, good for them! I'd love to see more religious houses take a stand like this.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

Same here.

[rellan.livejournal.com]

I've never understood the objection to gays getting married. But then, I don't understand the objection to gay people period. If you're consenting adults, commited to each other and want to get married, you should be able to do so. End of story.

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

It's very nosy to object to other people's marriages, isn't it?

[harveywallbang.livejournal.com]

go ohio!
all of the arguements against gay marriage are weak and based on plain stubbornness.
it is a civil rights issue :D

[icarusancalion.livejournal.com]

The advertisements need to stop showing images of gay couples kissing, and talk about the issues instead. They should give the art direction over to people who aren't gay, who are capable of seeing what will convince those on the fence.