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I don't often get flames, concrit yes, but not flames. Yet somehow, for some reason this drabble consistently inspires them:


In November
by Icarus


His lips were soft, which was unexpected. Ron looked like he was all skinny angles, but he was soft really. His eyelashes fluttered closed, his breath a warm pant on Neville's cheek, a November mist.

They had just been talking, that's all, about Quidditch and family and girls and things like that, when it got really, really quiet.

Neville breathed a sigh, and took in the arching branches overhead, the quiet lake, the patch of sky.

"We probably shouldn't do that again."

They both agreed, as they leaned in for a second kiss.

.
.
.

Mystified?

Me too.

Date: 2004-08-03 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maelwaedd.livejournal.com
I'm going to jump on board the mystified train.
*glomps*

I think it's lovely.

Date: 2004-08-06 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
It's one of my favourites. I confessed to being somewhat nonplused.

Icarus

Date: 2004-08-03 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] incoming.livejournal.com
I Do Not Get flamer!logic. It doesn't even apply in any real-life situations. I mean, say, somebody is wearing a t-shirt that you don't really like, or you think is too loud or something. Are you going to walk right up to that person and start bitching them out because of their obvious lack of fashion sense?

Or say you're at a poetry reading and somebody reads some of your own stuff that you think is in bad taste. It's obviously even worse taste for you to sidle up to them and say, "man, that blew". It's like a heaping portion of social retardation, with a side of undue arrogance. Either these people don't seem to realize that there are some rules of etiquette that apply both on and offline, or they just don't care.

Sorry that was ranty, but yes. Flamers. (N) I thought it was good.

Date: 2004-08-04 08:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] haku-kaen.livejournal.com
I Do Not Get flamer!logic. It doesn't even apply in any real-life situations.

It's just further proof of the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory (http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2004-03-19).

They don't need to worry about any retribution at all other then, at worst, flames in return, so they chuck normal rules of etiquette out the window in favor of being the asshats they'd never get away with being IRL.

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Date: 2004-08-03 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wenelda.livejournal.com
...uh?
There's... nothing to flame. Unless they don't like NL/RW, but even then... Tough.
Well, whatever. I think it's lovely. :)

Date: 2004-08-06 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Every time I just sort of throw up my hands: What -? Again?

Icarus

Date: 2004-08-03 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] improperlydone.livejournal.com
I'm developing a fondness for Neville fic, it seems. But I can't see why people would flame that. I thought it was lovely.

In the flames, is it a matter of them not liking Neville? Do they tell you what their issue is with it? Maybe it is the fact that you have singlehandedly destroyed the OTP that is Harry/Ron!!! How dare you, you wicked, wicked evil person, you!! ;)

PS -- I love Harry/Ron, so you've crushed my little heart. *sniffs*

Date: 2004-08-06 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Well it's mostly anti-slash flames, so I guess I'm destroying the OTP that is Ron/Hermione.

Or something.

icarus

Date: 2004-08-03 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyricalnights.livejournal.com
You want the Neville/Ron? Well you can't handle the Neville/Ron!!

*shrugs* Not. A. Clue.

Date: 2004-08-04 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marauderthesn.livejournal.com
You want the Neville/Ron? Well you can't handle the Neville/Ron!!

That just made me laugh really, really loud.

Yeah, no idea why someone wouldn't like this. It's short, sweet, and tender.

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Date: 2004-08-03 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com
???!????

Yes. Mystified. Very. It's innocent and lovely.

Hm.

Maybe that's the "problem."

Date: 2004-08-06 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Maybe that's the "problem."

Too hard to argue with, you think?

Icarus

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Date: 2004-08-03 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jackoweskla.livejournal.com
OMGWTF!! HOw coudl u rite a story wit Novembr?!?!? I hate taht month so much!!11!!one11

Um yeah, I thought it was fine. There's really not enough to flame, if you know what I mean. Unless the Ron-haters reeeeally feel that he's not meant for Neville.

Date: 2004-08-03 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wenelda.livejournal.com
That must be it. People are prejudiced against the month of November, and they simply cannot stand it being in a PG NL/RW fic. *Grin*

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Date: 2004-08-03 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ursulakohl.livejournal.com
Awww. I'm feeling that warm fuzzy feeling ;)

Date: 2004-08-04 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
It was written for you, last September. :) You requested Ron/Neville.

Icarus

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Date: 2004-08-03 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kragey.livejournal.com
[monotone voice]: Oh, yes. This is so worthy of a flame. Beware of the kiss. Haha, I'm a scary troll. Click. You're dead. < / sarcasm >

Date: 2004-08-06 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
I've written so much worse. Non-con. Incest. Hagrid/Buckbeak. *shakes head*

I think it sneaks up on people. Or -- and this is the best case scenario -- they can see it happening and hate me for it.

Icarus

Date: 2004-08-03 10:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] florahart
What on earth is the nature of the flamage? *is puzzled*

Date: 2004-08-04 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Just the usual "ew, it's gay" stuff. *smirks* I just don't get much of that, really. This drabble is so innocent compared to most of my stuff. It cracks me up every time.

Icarus

Date: 2004-08-03 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] satinvalkyrie.livejournal.com
That's actually really lovely. I very much liked it. Flame-writers are such goobers. *grin*

Date: 2004-08-07 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Thank you. I... I really like that one. So I just wonder about the flames. I think, "you know, there's this Percy/Arthur fic I wrote that would upset you so much more. Because not only is it slash, it's incest, and it's NC-17."

Icarus

Date: 2004-08-03 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nataliadarimini.livejournal.com
That is...odd.

What could be more innocuous that the sweet neville/ron love?

Date: 2004-08-07 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
It's so gentle, and we don't even see the kiss.

Icarus

Date: 2004-08-03 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redisforweasley.livejournal.com
But it was simple and cute. How can that be flamed? Incestual boy sex... understood. Fluffy boy kisses? What is the world coming to.

Date: 2004-08-07 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Very, very strange indeed.

Icarus

Date: 2004-08-04 12:07 am (UTC)
ext_80328: Mad Martha (Default)
From: [identity profile] mad-martha.livejournal.com
What kind of flames? I'm curious because ... well, it's short. Harmless. Neville/Ron. Are they flaming the 'ship, the language ...?

Flamers = no logic, mind you.

Mad Martha

Date: 2004-08-07 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
They're flaming that it's slash at all. *shrugs*

Icarus

Date: 2004-08-04 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nykohl.livejournal.com
I don't...get it? I think it's good, I think it's a great adaptation of a pairing that we don't see...ever. It must be all those die-hard R/Hr shippers. Yup.

Date: 2004-08-07 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
There really needs to be more Ron/Neville. Especially if it gets flamed.

Icarus

Date: 2004-08-04 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timberwolfoz.livejournal.com
Maybe it's because you implied it's a once off? They must want to see more Ron/Neville! ;)

Date: 2004-08-07 12:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
It's time to write that NC-17 follow-up.

Icarus

Date: 2004-08-04 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ajuxliapose.livejournal.com
I don't get it. I have a Ron/Neville archived at ff.net and I read yours and loved it. Mine is a hell of a lot longer and more explicit and trollish because I started writing it when I first joined the fandom. Should really start to work on that story again.

I don't *get* some people *sighs*

Date: 2004-08-04 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jewelofsaturn.livejournal.com
I loved it and thought it was a beautiful piece of writing, even though I rarely read Ron/Neville. I really don't see anything to flame. ... ...Then again since when did flamers have any sort of logic at all? At least I hope the flames were amusing.

Date: 2004-08-04 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
A couple were "nice writing, ugh, gay." Others were less specific: "do you have a life?"

(Answer: no. But that's okay with me.)

It's just general 'i h8te slash' flames.

I'm just suprised it's this drabble.

Icarus

Date: 2004-08-04 05:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caseylane.livejournal.com
Put me with those that are curious about what the flames said. I can't think of any reason this little fic could cause such a reaction. I mean it isn't a standard pairing but so what. It was still rather sweet and gentle and set up a lovely mood.

maybe...

Date: 2004-08-04 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kagyakusha.livejournal.com
'November' is a trigger word for the insane? o.o
umm.

Date: 2004-08-04 07:59 am (UTC)
ext_18536: (Default)
From: [identity profile] mizbean.livejournal.com
Maybe it's because loyal, manly Ron is not supposed to be gay. *shrugs*

Date: 2004-08-04 02:15 pm (UTC)
ext_3319: Goth girl outfit (Default)
From: [identity profile] rikibeth.livejournal.com
I have to go with "it's so innocent the slash-haters are lured in before they realize what hit them."

It's lovely. I can feel the chill, and damp, and smell the leafmold. And daydream about the coming winter, and perhaps something more happening under warm blankets in a Gryffindor bed...

*loves this drabble terribly much*

Date: 2004-08-04 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skellywag.livejournal.com
I have to say, though I don't like the pairing (Ron and/or Neville being slashed squicks me big time), I have to say that I really like that drabble. It's really sweet. And dare I use the "C" word? I do. It's way cute. But then, I also believe that that particular pairing should not go into any further description, too. XP But I honestly don't see what's so flameworthy about it. Of course, I also don't understand why homophobes read fic that is explicitly labeled "slash" and then flame it.

Date: 2004-08-05 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harveywallbang.livejournal.com
they're just plain silly.. the only flame i've ever actually gotten was one story in which i had ron dancing around to an aerosmith song. and even though i put in the author's notes that i truly didn't think ron was gay (even though i love slashing him), i still got someone who was mad because apparently i was making everyone gay... (which i was, but still.. i put it in the summary!) they're just..yeah... the greater internet fuckwad theory really is true...
i think it's utterly lovely...

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