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Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is brought to us by Fred C. He says: "Just once I'd like to see Draco beg Ron for sexual pleasure."

Jesus. What would that take? Other than the tired love potion, Polyjuice, yadda-yadda.

Date: 2003-02-22 05:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ursula
They're both madly jealous of Harry and decide to ally & prove themselves? And Ron turns out to be caring and aware and good in bed?

Date: 2003-02-22 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Jealous of Harry's fame? Try to prove themselves better than him? Hm. How would it lead to sex?

~Icarus

Date: 2003-02-22 10:51 pm (UTC)
ursula: bear eating salmon (Default)
From: [personal profile] ursula
They independently decide that they're going to become professional Quidditch players, and start showing up at the field at strange times that there isn't standard practice, but they keep running into each other, and realize that they'll do so much better if they play against each other instead of releasing balls at random. Then you have the shower scenes, and all the physicality of any sport, and, well, yeah.

*Wanders off looking for alternative method*

Date: 2003-02-23 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
It's tough, isn't it? The hard part is Draco *begging* Ron.

Date: 2003-02-24 05:51 am (UTC)
ursula: bear eating salmon (Default)
From: [personal profile] ursula
Write a hideously repressed upper-class Draco. He's always thought sex too dirty to be bothered with, and women don't exactly interest him anyway. Even his friendships are physically standoffish, because there's no way on this poor Earth that Draco would let Crabbe or Goyle clap him on the back.

Then give Draco and Ron a reason to cooperate, make them touch, and let Draco react with the full force of a decade and a half of repression. He'll probably scream at Ron and swear to destroy his family unto the seventh generation for attempting the dishonour.

And then Draco won't be able to forget the moment, and the sinking sense that Ron is his equal, in a way that Crabbe and Goyle never will be. He'll have to hunt Ron down, and apologize. And Ron won't listen. So Draco will be embarrassed, and more embarrassed, and anyway Draco's mind only has two categories for human interaction: one where you boss everyone around, and one where you beg. So he'll have to beg.

Date: 2003-02-24 06:06 am (UTC)
ursula: bear eating salmon (Default)
From: [personal profile] ursula
Alternatively, let them have sex on relatively equal terms. Then Draco, who clearly equates money and love, will give Ron a particularly expensive thank-you present, and Ron will assume Draco's calling him a whore, and throw it in his face. After that Draco pretty much has to beg.

Dear Icarus...

Date: 2003-02-22 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dphearson.livejournal.com
am just taking the time to review your fic 'Primer to the Dark Arts'. I have really enjoyed the way you took the more absurd moment in JKR's work and turned them into an awkward, rather touching yet sexy treatment of young people exploring their sexuality. There is also he fascinating premise of Harry getting these lessons, and starting to empathise- slowly- with Snape. The pacing is slighlt quick for me- but then, I like alot of exposition- but it truely well done.
I like the last chapter, ith Harry botching the magic that snape had him sumon. It is pitch perfect with what goes on these books- that sometimes, magic is quite unpredictable!
One small thing- with Harry trying to hide his love from Ron, and yet allowing himself to be Ron's friend, even when he is experimenting with others- namely Hermione. Harry is a quiet sort, and introspective, but surely he would feel a bit conflicted at the thought of sharing his friend in such an intimate way?
Well, that is all for now.

Re: Dear Icarus...

Date: 2003-02-23 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Thank you! I've seen your stuff around. You Beta for MHC, right?

To answer your question about Harry putting up with Ron fooling around with Hermione...

On a practical level, Harry doesn't blame Ron, because he knows he lied, so Ron has no reason to think he's hurting Harry. Remember these are guys. Sex does not mean emotional involvement. They both know that. Ron did what was expected of a guy: 'you're okay with this, right?' Among guys, since Harry lied and said 'yeah' - that's enough. He has no right to be angry about it. Especially since he helped Ron and Hermione get together in the first place (damned Gryffindor nobility). Recall chapter Four, oh so long ago. (If Harry were a girl, s/he would be really, really, hurt.)

On an emotional level, Harry cares a lot about Ron. The relationship has changed. Harry is more vulnerable where Ron is concerned, so he's more careful with him than if he only thought of Ron as a friend. Unlike the GoF, Harry's too invested in Ron, so is not willing to risk getting angry. So Harry's anger is buried instead. More guy-stuff.

Add to that the fact Harry hasn't examined his feelings at all. He hasn't even realized that he's holding onto something in hopes of getting Ron back, nor has he weighed whether it's worth the risk to the friendship. He's not even aware that he's waiting(hoping) for Ron's thing with Hermione to pass.

And gosh darn it, Harry's being Gryffindor-ish noble. And that much he is aware of, he made a conscious decision to help Ron with Hermione. Stiff upper lip then. They're his friends after all, even though he hated it.

But that stunt in the Gryffindor bedroom was too much. Harry almost lost it there.

The next morning, if Snape hadn't stopped Harry, Harry would have ended up spilling his feelings to Ron without ever stopping to see what they were first. *ahem* That's not the best way to deal with something complicated. It was almost a disaster.

Re: Dear Icarus...

Date: 2003-02-23 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dphearson.livejournal.com
Yes, MHC and I putter stuff around.
Ah, i see where you are going now- and I see you have thought about Harry's state of being. I can (and did) see the guy issues- buried feelings, inappropiates bursts of anger, stiff upper lip (actually, quite British), etc. Snape's remarks to him then do make a great deal of sense.
Thank you.
:-)

I write the weird stuff- the Snape/Dumbledore. Whoo-boy.

off topic

Date: 2003-02-23 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cybele-san.livejournal.com
i've been trying to send you email to thanks for reviewing Just Add Water, but it keeps bouncing. so... hm. Thanks, anyway. heh.

Re: off topic

Date: 2003-02-23 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
*Curses violently.* I've had to change my email address. For some reason Yahoo shut it off and they won't tell me why. Did you have specific comments? I'd be interested to hear at (my new email) icarus_ancalion@yahoo.com.

I loved it. More praise, when I described it (blow by blow) to my boyfriend, he said 'now that was written by a guy.' When I said, no, I don't think so, he said, "well, then she talked to somebody."

He had other things to say, but anyway, I'm gonna have him read it.

~Icarus

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