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I have two favors to ask of you.

First: Vote.

Second: Post about the Livejournal representative election. Urge your friendslist to vote and then post about the vote.

If massive numbers of fandomers surge to vote, then we will have our pick of fandom candidates. Instead of being a race between an anti-fandom candidate, [livejournal.com profile] jameth and fandom candidate [livejournal.com profile] legomymalfoy, we can have a race between [livejournal.com profile] legomymalfoy and [livejournal.com profile] rm.

I know we can easily reach 14,000 fandomers. I've added up the f-lists of those who've posted about the vote already. And you don't have to wait. Because you can change your mind between now and Thursday.

The three top fandom candidates:

[livejournal.com profile] legomymalfoy
[livejournal.com profile] rm
[livejournal.com profile] vichan

As of this moment, the numbers are:

[livejournal.com profile] jameth - 2508 (17.8%)
[livejournal.com profile] legomymalfoy - 3785 (26.9%)
[livejournal.com profile] rm - 1522 (10.8%)
[livejournal.com profile] vichan - 707 (5.0%)

I've nothing against this guy personally, but I don't like his paranoid campaign and troll history.
[livejournal.com profile] jameth attacked fandom once he fell behind, accusing us of sockpuppeting with up to 200 puppets per fandomer (seriously?) all based on an "anonymous tip." (Other moments that smack of conspiracy theories include fears that LJ is locking in votes and [livejournal.com profile] jameth blaming [livejournal.com profile] legomymalfoy for a supporter being kicked off IRC chat by burr86. Let's not forget the backhanded pre-emptive swipes at all the candidates, with the caption "I don't think _my_ platform is going to change. Not sure about anyone else's, though." Not someone I would want to work with. For more paranoia: He now fears Legomymalfoy's ahead because the LJ support team doesn't like him.)

Longstanding fandomers like [livejournal.com profile] telesilla (whom you might remember from her reporting of strikethrough and FanLib) and [livejournal.com profile] caras_galadhon and others, remind us [livejournal.com profile] jameth is a known troll, while [livejournal.com profile] bethbethbeth points out the strongly anti-fandom attitude of his supporters, which he's made no effort to contradict.

But hey, let's plague an epileptic's journal with flashing icons!
So I guess it should come as no surprise that his supporters are deliberately posting flashing icons in the comments of an epileptic's journal. At least one other epileptic has been affected, so turn off graphics if you click to [livejournal.com profile] rydra_wong's journal. The [livejournal.com profile] bigdecision08 community which is run by three [livejournal.com profile] jameth supporters has posted about this, unfortunately directing [livejournal.com profile] jameth's supporters to her journal. I've asked [livejournal.com profile] jameth what, since he's seeking a leadership role and has been comfortable telling people to vote for him in all three categories, does he have to say about this? So far, although he's fine with directing people to vote for him and then null out in all categories, not a peep. To [livejournal.com profile] rydra_wong it's not his problem. Nice guy. ETA: I asked him about it and he replied "what post?" This guy's totally full of shit. He'd already replied to [livejournal.com profile] rydra_wong's post several times. He's attempting to run on his RL credentials, but I've learned in comments here that someone who's worked with him IRL "does not have complimentary things to say about his skills with dealing with people."

I've collected endorsements of [livejournal.com profile] legomymalfoy here.

I've collected endorsements of [livejournal.com profile] rm here.

We've got great candidates. The current second-place candidate is someone I don't want, I don't know about you. He is anti-fandom.

Date: 2008-05-26 04:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] groovinmahoovin.livejournal.com
The link attributed to you "being opposed to Jameth's anti-fandom attitude" doesn't even contain a quote from Jameth. It contains a quote from somebody else.

Date: 2008-05-26 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethbethbeth.livejournal.com
Take it up with the OP.

I'm afraid I'll too be busy watching Jameth's supporters start to spam my journal, as they're now starting to do.

Date: 2008-05-26 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] groovinmahoovin.livejournal.com
Commenting on your false accusations about Jameth is not spam. HTH.

Date: 2008-05-26 04:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethbethbeth.livejournal.com
Leaving pathetic photo manips in my journal isn't commenting - and a direct quote from a friend of Jameth's in Jameth's journal isn't a false accusation.

Date: 2008-05-26 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] groovinmahoovin.livejournal.com
It is a false accusation when that comment is used to represent Jameth's beliefs. Additionally, you've accused Jameth of being a racist because of a comment left by some random Jameth supporter which is borderline libelous.

If the words of random supporters were relevant to a person's beliefs, what's to stop someone from supporting a different candidate and posting racist nonsense to make that candidate look bad? That's the problem with judging a candidate based on comments from one of their thousands of supporters.

Date: 2008-05-26 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethbethbeth.livejournal.com
No, I said that not once has Jameth asked any of the people saying negative and incendiary things on his journal to stop.

I also never said that Jameth was racist (in fact, I went out of my way in the post I made this evening to say that from everything I read, Jameth's real life views seem anything but conservative). That he has racists on his personal f'list, however, is not disputable.

Date: 2008-05-26 05:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] groovinmahoovin.livejournal.com
Him "not asking any of the people saying negative and incendiary things on his journal to stop" works both ways, as it applies to both his supporters and his detractors. While other candidates have preemptively banned Jameth from commenting because of false accusations (like "Jameth created Frienditto"), Jameth has basically allowed anyone to say anything about him. He has specifically told his supporters not to stoop to the level of those trying to rig the election, so it isn't as if he's being completely laissez-faire about the actions of others.

Regarding the second comment, I'm not sure how the contents of one's flist is particularly relevant considering that "friends" is a misnomer on LJ. An LJ friend is simply "someone whose journal I read." Additionally, it can be difficult to judge whether the written word is serious or a parody--several Jameth detractors have been complaining about his "homophobic language" when he's talked about "going out with his fags." I have no idea how a gay man calling his gay friends "fags" is homophobic but apparently other people feel that way.

Date: 2008-05-26 04:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
You cool with that? I can take the link down if you like. The crowd [livejournal.com profile] jameth has collected around him with his "just for the lulz" campaign can be really obnoxious.

Date: 2008-05-26 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethbethbeth.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] jameth has already linked to my journal in his LJ, so really, what purpose would it serve? Or maybe you could change the text to what it is: "his supporters' anti-fandom attitudes, which he doesn't seem to disagree with"

Date: 2008-05-26 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Sure, I can change that. *pulls out quill* Would you like me to?

Date: 2008-05-26 05:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
Done. My way of dealing with the spam comments is to just open the comments of names I recognize, and then when I'm in the mood, deal with the spammers in one batch. If I answer at all.

Date: 2008-05-26 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethbethbeth.livejournal.com
Yeah. I'm not one for banning, but I think I'm done replying. I understand they want to defend their friend (or whatever he is to them), but I'm not interested in a debate.

Date: 2008-05-26 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
That's what I did when I was talking to [livejournal.com profile] jameth. I used email to sort out the comments I wanted to read (Jameth and one other person) and just responded to those.

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