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I have two favors to ask of you.

First: Vote.

Second: Post about the Livejournal representative election. Urge your friendslist to vote and then post about the vote.

If massive numbers of fandomers surge to vote, then we will have our pick of fandom candidates. Instead of being a race between an anti-fandom candidate, [livejournal.com profile] jameth and fandom candidate [livejournal.com profile] legomymalfoy, we can have a race between [livejournal.com profile] legomymalfoy and [livejournal.com profile] rm.

I know we can easily reach 14,000 fandomers. I've added up the f-lists of those who've posted about the vote already. And you don't have to wait. Because you can change your mind between now and Thursday.

The three top fandom candidates:

[livejournal.com profile] legomymalfoy
[livejournal.com profile] rm
[livejournal.com profile] vichan

As of this moment, the numbers are:

[livejournal.com profile] jameth - 2508 (17.8%)
[livejournal.com profile] legomymalfoy - 3785 (26.9%)
[livejournal.com profile] rm - 1522 (10.8%)
[livejournal.com profile] vichan - 707 (5.0%)

I've nothing against this guy personally, but I don't like his paranoid campaign and troll history.
[livejournal.com profile] jameth attacked fandom once he fell behind, accusing us of sockpuppeting with up to 200 puppets per fandomer (seriously?) all based on an "anonymous tip." (Other moments that smack of conspiracy theories include fears that LJ is locking in votes and [livejournal.com profile] jameth blaming [livejournal.com profile] legomymalfoy for a supporter being kicked off IRC chat by burr86. Let's not forget the backhanded pre-emptive swipes at all the candidates, with the caption "I don't think _my_ platform is going to change. Not sure about anyone else's, though." Not someone I would want to work with. For more paranoia: He now fears Legomymalfoy's ahead because the LJ support team doesn't like him.)

Longstanding fandomers like [livejournal.com profile] telesilla (whom you might remember from her reporting of strikethrough and FanLib) and [livejournal.com profile] caras_galadhon and others, remind us [livejournal.com profile] jameth is a known troll, while [livejournal.com profile] bethbethbeth points out the strongly anti-fandom attitude of his supporters, which he's made no effort to contradict.

But hey, let's plague an epileptic's journal with flashing icons!
So I guess it should come as no surprise that his supporters are deliberately posting flashing icons in the comments of an epileptic's journal. At least one other epileptic has been affected, so turn off graphics if you click to [livejournal.com profile] rydra_wong's journal. The [livejournal.com profile] bigdecision08 community which is run by three [livejournal.com profile] jameth supporters has posted about this, unfortunately directing [livejournal.com profile] jameth's supporters to her journal. I've asked [livejournal.com profile] jameth what, since he's seeking a leadership role and has been comfortable telling people to vote for him in all three categories, does he have to say about this? So far, although he's fine with directing people to vote for him and then null out in all categories, not a peep. To [livejournal.com profile] rydra_wong it's not his problem. Nice guy. ETA: I asked him about it and he replied "what post?" This guy's totally full of shit. He'd already replied to [livejournal.com profile] rydra_wong's post several times. He's attempting to run on his RL credentials, but I've learned in comments here that someone who's worked with him IRL "does not have complimentary things to say about his skills with dealing with people."

I've collected endorsements of [livejournal.com profile] legomymalfoy here.

I've collected endorsements of [livejournal.com profile] rm here.

We've got great candidates. The current second-place candidate is someone I don't want, I don't know about you. He is anti-fandom.

Date: 2008-05-26 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cambler.livejournal.com
Again with the ad hominem. I'm this close to just giving up on being civil with you - and since I'm civil with everyone, that means we're likely done.

The evidence is clear. The non-anecdotal evidence that I have has been sent to LJ, who have acknowledged it and assured me that they may look at it and may do something about it, but also that there's not much that they can do.

So yes, the election is a farce.

You clearly don't agree. Fine. I accept your opinion as your own. We're done.

Date: 2008-05-26 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
This is not a personal attack. Your evidence (about the troll and your friend with the 70 accounts) depends upon my believing your word. I don't know you well enough for that. In any debate you have to agree on what's acceptable evidence first.

Date: 2008-05-26 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cambler.livejournal.com
As I said, if you don't take my word for it, which I don't ask you to, eliminate the anecdotal.

Stick to the facts: at this point, at least ten people have posted screencaps of multiple voting, proving it's possible. They admitted to between two and ten accounts, each, and almost all of them said they retracted the votes afterwards.

So we have proof that it's possible.

Then we have known individuals with hundreds of accounts, self-identified trolls, who are active in the comments, who refuse to say, in public, whether they've used them or not.

So it's possible - check. People do have hundreds of accounts - check. People with that many are exactly the kind of people who would do it - check.

At this point, I don't care who they voted for. Make it me. Make it Jameth. Make it rm. I don't care.

We have ability, we have motive and we have opportunity.

I'd be thrilled if someone cops to it, but I don't see that happening.

But at the end of the day, to claim it's not happening is ludicrous.

I think we're done. You can have the last word now.

Date: 2008-05-26 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icarusancalion.livejournal.com
In this country, the burden of proof is on the accuser. You don't get to switch the responsibility to me if you're the one making the accusation.

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